From: Noddy on

"jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message
news:4c0db57d$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...

> weeell,....what an enthralling thread, after reading all poasts,
> consuming lots of coffee and a plate of pikelets, iv`e come to the
> conclusion that :- what wasn`t is, what is, might have been, but maybe
> not...what was is not, wrong is right, black is white......to borrow
> another usenetters sig. "the ears on the loon go round and round"....i`m
> off for a bex and a good lie down..hoo roo....

That might be best.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: D Walford on
On 8/06/2010 11:28 AM, John_H wrote:
> D Walford wrote:
>>
>> Can't say that I've noticed any new cars with that problem but faulty
>> lights is a big problem, badly aimed head and fog lamps plus burnt out
>> globes is all too common, some people never check such things and even
>> when you tell them they don't care enough to get it fixed.
>
> Current Subie is the only car I've ever owned (new or secondhand) that
> didn't need headlamp adjustment... probably only because it's got
> HID's from factory.
>

Is there a pattern to the way they out of adjustment?
Can't remember having that problem with any new car I've bought.

> I also take notice of aftermarket driving lamps when I'm walking down
> the street. It's rare to see a pair that even point vaguely in the
> same direction!
>
I need a new lens for one of my fog lamps and I couldn't believe the
price, about $44.00 just for a lens when the whole kit only costs $130.00.


Daryl
From: John_H on
D Walford wrote:
>On 8/06/2010 11:28 AM, John_H wrote:
>> D Walford wrote:
>>>
>>> Can't say that I've noticed any new cars with that problem but faulty
>>> lights is a big problem, badly aimed head and fog lamps plus burnt out
>>> globes is all too common, some people never check such things and even
>>> when you tell them they don't care enough to get it fixed.
>>
>> Current Subie is the only car I've ever owned (new or secondhand) that
>> didn't need headlamp adjustment... probably only because it's got
>> HID's from factory.
>
>Is there a pattern to the way they out of adjustment?

Incorrect height, usually set too high, is the commonest problem.
Probably because they don't jounce the suspension in the factory.
Subie is self leveling (HID's have to be) which is probably why it was
correct ex factory.

>Can't remember having that problem with any new car I've bought.

Can't remember one where it wasn't. When the oncoming traffic on the
highway challenges low beam is a sure indicator for those who don't
bother to check.

I'd normally asked the dealer to set them when the car goes back for
its "free check" (for those that still have it). It's one of the few
things the dealers always seems to get right first time around, so I'd
assume they get plenty of practice. :)

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John H
From: hippo on
D Walford wrote:
>
> On 8/06/2010 11:28 AM, John_H wrote:
> > D Walford wrote:
> >>
> >> Can't say that I've noticed any new cars with that problem but faulty
> >> lights is a big problem, badly aimed head and fog lamps plus burnt out
> >> globes is all too common, some people never check such things and even
> >> when you tell them they don't care enough to get it fixed.
> >
> > Current Subie is the only car I've ever owned (new or secondhand) that
> > didn't need headlamp adjustment... probably only because it's got
> > HID's from factory.
> >
>
> Is there a pattern to the way they out of adjustment?
> Can't remember having that problem with any new car I've bought.
>
> > I also take notice of aftermarket driving lamps when I'm walking down
> > the street. It's rare to see a pair that even point vaguely in the
> > same direction!
> >
> I need a new lens for one of my fog lamps and I couldn't believe the
> price, about $44.00 just for a lens when the whole kit only costs $130.00.
>
>
> Daryl
>
>

Many aimed high & not usually seeming full, overladen at the rear or
towing.
Several with lateral adjustment problems. I'm guessing there are either a
hell of a lot of late model cars with front end repairs that included one
or more headlights, or similar numbers of owners changing their light
alignment incompetently.

The only alternative seems to be assembly problems compounded by
inadequate pre-delivery checks and we all know that couldn't happen, don't
we?

BTW, those prices obviously weren't for a 2000 Outback lens or foglamp :(

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From: hippo on
John_H wrote:
>
> D Walford wrote:
> >On 8/06/2010 11:28 AM, John_H wrote:
> >> D Walford wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can't say that I've noticed any new cars with that problem but faulty
> >>> lights is a big problem, badly aimed head and fog lamps plus burnt out
> >>> globes is all too common, some people never check such things and even
> >>> when you tell them they don't care enough to get it fixed.
> >>
> >> Current Subie is the only car I've ever owned (new or secondhand) that
> >> didn't need headlamp adjustment... probably only because it's got
> >> HID's from factory.
> >
> >Is there a pattern to the way they out of adjustment?
>
> Incorrect height, usually set too high, is the commonest problem.
> Probably because they don't jounce the suspension in the factory.
> Subie is self leveling (HID's have to be) which is probably why it was
> correct ex factory.
>
> >Can't remember having that problem with any new car I've bought.
>
> Can't remember one where it wasn't. When the oncoming traffic on the
> highway challenges low beam is a sure indicator for those who don't
> bother to check.
>
> I'd normally asked the dealer to set them when the car goes back for
> its "free check" (for those that still have it). It's one of the few
> things the dealers always seems to get right first time around, so I'd
> assume they get plenty of practice. :)
>

Maybe the default settings assume 1 or 2 standard weight Americans on
board.

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