From: D Walford on
On 2/06/2010 10:47 PM, Noddy wrote:
> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
> news:kkic061fu0mb7sepnjubmmk3sl05v0p3t3(a)4ax.com...
>
>> I failed to mention that one of the items on the 15000km first service
>> for all my Mitsubishis is "Check front and rear suspension components
>> for alignment, damage wear and SECURITY"
>>
>> If you also add to that the requirement to "Check condition of all
>> ball joints and all bushes" and "Roadtest steering and suspension
>> (including shock absorbers)"
>>
>> My comment stands....
>
> No, it doesn't.
>
> A 15k km's service *isn't* a first service.

I didn't believe it either but the first service on the Forester is at
15,000klms or 12mths.
I don't like the idea all that much so I check fluid levels regularly
but I'd bet that many cars with long service intervals never get checked
which could be disastrous if there was a leak or if the new engine used
a bit of oil which they can easily do.
I expected the first service to be at 1000 or 1500klm but none is listed
in the service book, if I remember correctly the Hilux's first service
was at 1500klm with an "optional" oil and filter change at the owners
expense which I had done.


Daryl
From: Clocky on
OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:46:11 +1000, OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:30:34 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:iis906lafdmovhtrik3ie6b71i4je3ochv(a)4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> You'd have to suspect that every one of these was picked up in the
>>>>> first service.....If the dealers actually did a first service...
>>>>
>>>> Dealer mechanics checking ball joint bolts on a first service?
>>>>
>>>> You're kidding, right? :)
>>>
>>> That's what I was thinking, it's a very naive comment on OzOne's
>>> part.
>>>
>>> If the bolt was loose causing a suspension knock and the customer
>>> complained about it only then would the suspension be checked at
>>> first service, or if there was an outstanding campaign.
>>>
>>>
>> "If the dealer actually DID a first service"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OzOne of the three twins
>>
>> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
>
> I failed to mention that one of the items on the 15000km first service
> for all my Mitsubishis is "Check front and rear suspension components
> for alignment, damage wear and SECURITY"
>
> If you also add to that the requirement to "Check condition of all
> ball joints and all bushes" and "Roadtest steering and suspension
> (including shock absorbers)"
>
> My comment stands....
>
>
> This check is SUPPOSED to be done at each 30,00km from then on so on
> older vehicles included in this recall, it should also have been
> picked up
>

What should be done and what gets done are two different things.

As far as campaigns go, and I don't know if it is the case for Mitsubishi,
but for Holden as soon as a repair order is made any outstanding campaigns
are automatically shown on the repair order without any user intervention as
the system is linked to the Holden system.

That way nothing should be missed when the car presents itself for any
reason at the dealership.



From: Clocky on
D Walford wrote:
> On 2/06/2010 10:47 PM, Noddy wrote:
>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>> news:kkic061fu0mb7sepnjubmmk3sl05v0p3t3(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>> I failed to mention that one of the items on the 15000km first
>>> service for all my Mitsubishis is "Check front and rear suspension
>>> components for alignment, damage wear and SECURITY"
>>>
>>> If you also add to that the requirement to "Check condition of all
>>> ball joints and all bushes" and "Roadtest steering and suspension
>>> (including shock absorbers)"
>>>
>>> My comment stands....
>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>>
>> A 15k km's service *isn't* a first service.
>
> I didn't believe it either but the first service on the Forester is at
> 15,000klms or 12mths.
> I don't like the idea all that much so I check fluid levels regularly
> but I'd bet that many cars with long service intervals never get
> checked which could be disastrous if there was a leak or if the new
> engine used a bit of oil which they can easily do.
> I expected the first service to be at 1000 or 1500klm but none is
> listed in the service book, if I remember correctly the Hilux's first
> service was at 1500klm with an "optional" oil and filter change at
> the owners expense which I had done.
>

Most manufacturers have their first service interval at 1000, 1500 or 3000km
although it's really nothing more than a tyre kick and a visual check unless
the owner is willing to pay for an oil and filter change, as you said. You
are right in that Subaru have their first service at 15,000km which is a
long time for a first service interval. Not sure if any other manufacturers
have a similar interval - I doubt Mitsubishi have though.


From: John_H on
hippo wrote:
>John_H wrote:
>> atec7 7 <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote:
>> >
>> >http://fat.ly/q19du
>>
>> You'd have to suspect sabotage (GM being the likely culprit). ;-)
>
>Just another problem with inter-lingual translation. The Japanes engineers
>kept hearing that Australians would need a few screws loose before buying
>another Mitsubishi, so....

Spin if ever there was!

Everyone knows that the race bred Triton suspension was developed for
the Paris Dakar Rally (or wherever they go nowadays) and is fine tuned
to perfection. If half the screws in a Colorado suspension were
missing it wouldn't be likely to make the wheel alignment any worse
than when it leaves the factory, whereas Triton owners daily perform
feats that Top Gear wouldn't attempt in a Hilux.

It's all about quality standards you fools!

--
John H
From: Noddy on

"John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message
news:ajme06hmv2n6q3bb5k3rsua30v8r2i9d79(a)4ax.com...

> FWIW I changed mine at 1500km (the car's never been back to the
> dealer, and isn't likely to unless there's a safety recall). :)

Couldn't agree more.

I've only had two new cars, and the last time the dealer saw either of them
was when they handed them over at delivery.

--
Regards,
Noddy.