From: Noddy on

"jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message news:4c076f17(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...

> give the blue one`s a miss for a while noddle.................

I'll take it onboard, thanks.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: OzOne on
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:16:08 +1000, D Walford
<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote:

>On 2/06/2010 10:47 PM, Noddy wrote:
>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>> news:kkic061fu0mb7sepnjubmmk3sl05v0p3t3(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>> I failed to mention that one of the items on the 15000km first service
>>> for all my Mitsubishis is "Check front and rear suspension components
>>> for alignment, damage wear and SECURITY"
>>>
>>> If you also add to that the requirement to "Check condition of all
>>> ball joints and all bushes" and "Roadtest steering and suspension
>>> (including shock absorbers)"
>>>
>>> My comment stands....
>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>>
>> A 15k km's service *isn't* a first service.
>
>I didn't believe it either but the first service on the Forester is at
>15,000klms or 12mths.
>I don't like the idea all that much so I check fluid levels regularly
>but I'd bet that many cars with long service intervals never get checked
>which could be disastrous if there was a leak or if the new engine used
>a bit of oil which they can easily do.
>I expected the first service to be at 1000 or 1500klm but none is listed
>in the service book, if I remember correctly the Hilux's first service
>was at 1500klm with an "optional" oil and filter change at the owners
>expense which I had done.
>
>
>Daryl

Yep and one would be hard pressed to call a 1500km inspection a
service.




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From: OzOne on
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:47:00 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote:

>
><OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>news:kkic061fu0mb7sepnjubmmk3sl05v0p3t3(a)4ax.com...
>
>> I failed to mention that one of the items on the 15000km first service
>> for all my Mitsubishis is "Check front and rear suspension components
>> for alignment, damage wear and SECURITY"
>>
>> If you also add to that the requirement to "Check condition of all
>> ball joints and all bushes" and "Roadtest steering and suspension
>> (including shock absorbers)"
>>
>> My comment stands....
>
>No, it doesn't.
>
>A 15k km's service *isn't* a first service.
>
>> This check is SUPPOSED to be done at each 30,00km from then on so on
>> older vehicles included in this recall, it should also have been
>> picked up
>
>Nope. Checking ball joint *fasteners* isn't part of any scheduled service
>unless there's been a service bulletin relating specifically to a problem in
>that area.
>
>Keep trying though. You're doing a dame fine job of deepening that hole.

Damn...You really DON'T know anythiing about cars.

My quotes were direct from service manuals for Mitsu products.
I'd respectfully suggest that if even you looked at ALL balljoints and
bushes, even YOU would see a loose bolt.....Not an incorrectly torqued
one but a LOOSE one!




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From: OzOne on
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:55:51 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
wrote:

>OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:46:11 +1000, OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:30:34 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iis906lafdmovhtrik3ie6b71i4je3ochv(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> You'd have to suspect that every one of these was picked up in the
>>>>>> first service.....If the dealers actually did a first service...
>>>>>
>>>>> Dealer mechanics checking ball joint bolts on a first service?
>>>>>
>>>>> You're kidding, right? :)
>>>>
>>>> That's what I was thinking, it's a very naive comment on OzOne's
>>>> part.
>>>>
>>>> If the bolt was loose causing a suspension knock and the customer
>>>> complained about it only then would the suspension be checked at
>>>> first service, or if there was an outstanding campaign.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> "If the dealer actually DID a first service"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OzOne of the three twins
>>>
>>> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
>>
>> I failed to mention that one of the items on the 15000km first service
>> for all my Mitsubishis is "Check front and rear suspension components
>> for alignment, damage wear and SECURITY"
>>
>> If you also add to that the requirement to "Check condition of all
>> ball joints and all bushes" and "Roadtest steering and suspension
>> (including shock absorbers)"
>>
>> My comment stands....
>>
>>
>> This check is SUPPOSED to be done at each 30,00km from then on so on
>> older vehicles included in this recall, it should also have been
>> picked up
>>
>
>What should be done and what gets done are two different things.
>

Indeed that's why I made my original comment.




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From: OzOne on
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:42:50 +1000, D Walford
<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote:

>On 2/06/2010 10:28 PM, OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:14:44 +1000, D Walford
>> <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/06/2010 9:46 PM, OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:06:39 +1000, "Milton"<millame23(a)yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iis906lafdmovhtrik3ie6b71i4je3ochv(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:29:03 +1000, John_H<john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> atec7 7<""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://brisbanetimes.drive.com.au/motor-news/mitsubishi-recalls-42000-utes-20100601-wrs8.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'd have to suspect sabotage (GM being the likely culprit). ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'd have to suspect that every one of these was picked up in the
>>>>>> first service.....If the dealers actually did a first service...
>>>>>>
>>>>> That would be a first. Maybe Mitsubishi dealership services are different to
>>>>> all the others?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Milton
>>>> "If the dealer actually DID a first service"
>>>
>>> Even on the off chance they did do the service as per the book its
>>> highly unlikely they would pick up an incorrectly torqued bolt or 2.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daryl
>>
>> If they indeed did the service per the book, they would have picked up
>> a loose bolt.
>> "The official recall notice filed with the Australian Government
>> claims: "Bolts may become loose in service resulting in excessive
>> suspension noise (knocking) and in the worst case the ball joint may
>> become detached from the suspension arm resulting in the vehicle being
>> unable to be driven."
>>
>> Vehicles go back to Oct 2006.
>>
>> However it is unlikely that the services involved more than an oil
>> change and a top up of washer fluid ....
>
>More than likely.
>The trained eye of an experienced mechanic could see a loose bolt from a
>long way off but since its more than likely that if anything at all was
>done its very likely that it was done by an inexperienced first year
>would couldn't spot a loose bolt if it hit him on the head when it fell out.
>
>
>Daryl

Yep, and the reason for my original comment...They get paid to do work
that isn't done.




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