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From: Fred G. Mackey on 5 May 2007 02:00 Robibnikoff wrote: > "Fred G. Mackey" <nospam(a)dont.spam> > snip > >>That's the SECONDARY definition. I notice you left out the PRIMARY >>definition. > > > So? If it's wrong, it's wrong. Deal. Deal with it yourself. The accepted definition is that atheists believe there are no gods. Since you don't seem to like that defintion, you argue as if it doesn't exist. That's a minor point though - atheists (as defined by most dictionaries) believe - get that - they BELIEVE - there are no gods. Instead of getting your panties in such a bunch over that definition, you should state your beliefs. If you admit you don't know, you are an agnostic. If you believe there are no gods or any singel god, you are an atheist. This bullshit about "strong" atheism vs. "weak" athesim is just a distraction. The fact that you and so many others got their panties in such a twist over a simple definition of a word reveals that you are much more dogmatic about your BELIEFS than many CHRISTIANS. You are religious - get over it.
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 02:00 On May 5, 7:30 am, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on Thu, 3 May 2007 20:16:21 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" > > <u...(a)man.jp> wrote: > >Meta wrote: > >> On May 3, 7:07 am, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >>> tjab wrote: > >>>> In article <59srujF2l7n0...(a)mid.individual.net>, > >>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >>>>> Kent Wills wrote: > > >>>>>> Where's the proof that atheism is correct? Why do you run and > >>>>>> hide when I ask about it? > > >>>>> I will gladly show that your pig-ignorant grotesque > >>>>> perverted superstition that you call christianity is > >>>>> utterly false. Hey! What did you snip here?! > >> Those are some pretty harsh accusations - a superstition, huh? > > >Irrefutably. > > Then explain why you run away when asked to prove it. It's been proven time and time again that your god is a mythological character no different from Zeus or Amun-Ra. Just do google searches for "Elohim" and "Annuaki" and note the similarly between your religion and ancient Sumerian beliefs. Sumerian mythology inspired all of Western mythology, including Judeo-Christianity. Thus Judeo- Christianity is a set of mythological beliefs no different than ancient Greek or Egyptian mythological beliefs. QED Martin
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 02:03 On May 5, 7:09 am, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on Thu, 03 May 2007 19:03:25 -0700, "Fred G. > > > > > > Mackey" <nos...(a)dont.spam> wrote: > >Jeckyl wrote: > >> "Kent Wills" <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:hatk331kpodcvs6mel0a1gmeklc6rq8qo8(a)4ax.com... > > >>>As I understand it, on Fri, 4 May 2007 03:14:47 +1000, "Jeckyl" > >>><n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>_ Prof. Jonez _ <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > > >>>>>>>I will gladly show that your pig-ignorant grotesque > >>>>>>>perverted superstition that you call christianity is > >>>>>>>utterly false. > > >>>>Please present this proof. > > >>>I've been asking for proof that atheism is correct for a very > >>>long time. > > >> Easy .. > > >> The theist position is to know that god exists > >> The atheist position is to not know that god exists > >> There is no proof that god exists > >> We cannot conclude that god exists or does not exist > >> Gods existance is unknown > >> The atheist position is correct > > >That's not a proof. Why not? Where's the flaw in his logic? Point it out for us, > It's a belief. Nothing more. You need to learn the difference between belief and fact. For example, it is a fact that your god does not exist, even though your insane mind will continue to believe that it does. Martin
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 02:07 On May 5, 7:06 am, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on Fri, 4 May 2007 10:37:06 +1000, "Jeckyl" > > <n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"Kent Wills" <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:hatk331kpodcvs6mel0a1gmeklc6rq8qo8(a)4ax.com... > >> As I understand it, on Fri, 4 May 2007 03:14:47 +1000, "Jeckyl" > >> <n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >>>>>> I will gladly show that your pig-ignorant grotesque > >>>>>> perverted superstition that you call christianity is > >>>>>> utterly false. > > >>>Please present this proof. > > >> I've been asking for proof that atheism is correct for a very > >> long time. > > >Easy .. > > >The theist position is to know that god exists > > To claim to KNOW is to claim to have proof. No sane person > would claim to KNOW there is a god. > I do believe, but freely admit I can't prove that God exists. > > >The atheist position is to not know that god exists > > That's an agnostic's position. Not quite. Agnostics don't know that gods exists but they also aren't sure if he doesn't exist. An agnostic person could take Pascal's Wager and decide that he should pray just in case. That position doesn't make him particularly honest but then few theists are. Martin
From: Fred G. Mackey on 5 May 2007 02:12
Jeckyl wrote: >>That's not the atheist position. You've done a GREAT job of >>explaining the agnostic position. > > > Which is also the atheist position .. you are confusing atheist with the > subset "strong-atheist", That's a crock - an atheist is an atheist. They BELIEVE there is no god of any kind. Your pleas only help prove my point that it IS a religion. If you weren't religious you would get so hyped up about it, especially in the face of valid cites which prove my position on this issue. > who not only have a lack of theism (ie no belief in > gods) but also a belief that gods to not exists. > > Yep - atheists have a belief that gods do not exist. |