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From: Amos Dundee on 5 May 2007 12:22 � UltraMan � = Colorado Scooters 1207 E.11th Ave. Denver CO 80218 Open 24 Hours - Call in advance to make sure we are awake. Zanmai Trading Company is a North American trading company specializing in importing Motor Scooters, Parts and Accessories. Company Name : Zanmai Trading Co Company Address : PO Box 20231 Boulder CO ZIP/Postal code : 80308 Company Phone : 1-303-6694574 Company Fax : 1-303-8619681 Contact Person : Eric Ross (Owner) Contact Phone : 3036694574 Trade Message > Buy - Scooter Engines 70cc 90cc Engine Parts Last Active: 13 Nov, 2005 Environmental Consultants LLC 1207 E 11th Ave Denver CO 80218 303.669.4574 303.861.9681 fax info(a)EPAhelp.com China Office: Shanghai Solang Information Technology Co., Ltd. 2-13D XINGHAI MANSION LANE 1251 JIANGNING ROAD, SHANGHAI 200060 86-21-62271602 86-21-62278972 fax info(a)tuohe.com Company Name: Zanmai Trading Co. Country/Territory: United States Address: PO Box 20231, Boulder, Colorado, United States Products/Services We Offer: Motor scooters, motorcycles, scooter engines, scooter parts, scooter performance accessories Business Type: Trading Company Industry Focus: Scooter Parts & Accessories , Motorcycle Accessories , Motorcycle Parts , Electric Motorcycles , Geographic Markets: North America No. of Employees: 5 - 10 People Annual Sales Range (USD): Below US$1 Million Year Established: 1995 Legal Representative/CEO: Eric Ross This member does NOT have a TrustPass Profile. TrustPass� serves to provide transparency regarding the identity and legitimacy of your trading partners on Alibaba.com. Only companies who have completed an Authentication and Verification procedure conducted by a third-party credit-reporting agency have a TrustPass Profile. Contact Person: Mr. Eric Ross Job Title: Director/CEO/General Manager Address: PO Box 20231, Boulder, Colorado, United States Zip/Postal Code: 80308 Telephone: 303-669-4574 Fax: 303-861-9681
From: Amos Dundee on 5 May 2007 12:22 � UltraMan � = Colorado Scooters 1207 E.11th Ave. Denver CO 80218 Open 24 Hours - Call in advance to make sure we are awake. Zanmai Trading Company is a North American trading company specializing in importing Motor Scooters, Parts and Accessories. Company Name : Zanmai Trading Co Company Address : PO Box 20231 Boulder CO ZIP/Postal code : 80308 Company Phone : 1-303-6694574 Company Fax : 1-303-8619681 Contact Person : Eric Ross (Owner) Contact Phone : 3036694574 Trade Message > Buy - Scooter Engines 70cc 90cc Engine Parts Last Active: 13 Nov, 2005 Environmental Consultants LLC 1207 E 11th Ave Denver CO 80218 303.669.4574 303.861.9681 fax info(a)EPAhelp.com China Office: Shanghai Solang Information Technology Co., Ltd. 2-13D XINGHAI MANSION LANE 1251 JIANGNING ROAD, SHANGHAI 200060 86-21-62271602 86-21-62278972 fax info(a)tuohe.com Company Name: Zanmai Trading Co. Country/Territory: United States Address: PO Box 20231, Boulder, Colorado, United States Products/Services We Offer: Motor scooters, motorcycles, scooter engines, scooter parts, scooter performance accessories Business Type: Trading Company Industry Focus: Scooter Parts & Accessories , Motorcycle Accessories , Motorcycle Parts , Electric Motorcycles , Geographic Markets: North America No. of Employees: 5 - 10 People Annual Sales Range (USD): Below US$1 Million Year Established: 1995 Legal Representative/CEO: Eric Ross This member does NOT have a TrustPass Profile. TrustPass� serves to provide transparency regarding the identity and legitimacy of your trading partners on Alibaba.com. Only companies who have completed an Authentication and Verification procedure conducted by a third-party credit-reporting agency have a TrustPass Profile. Contact Person: Mr. Eric Ross Job Title: Director/CEO/General Manager Address: PO Box 20231, Boulder, Colorado, United States Zip/Postal Code: 80308 Telephone: 303-669-4574 Fax: 303-861-9681
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 12:32 On May 5, 9:37 pm, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on Fri, 04 May 2007 19:12:30 -0400, Christopher > > A.Lee <c...(a)optonline.net> wrote: > >On Fri, 04 May 2007 18:06:28 -0500, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> > >wrote: > > >>As I understand it, on Fri, 4 May 2007 10:37:06 +1000, "Jeckyl" > >><n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>>"Kent Wills" <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>news:hatk331kpodcvs6mel0a1gmeklc6rq8qo8(a)4ax.com... > >>>> As I understand it, on Fri, 4 May 2007 03:14:47 +1000, "Jeckyl" > >>>> <n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> I will gladly show that your pig-ignorant grotesque > >>>>>>>> perverted superstition that you call christianity is > >>>>>>>> utterly false. > > >>>>>Please present this proof. > > >>>> I've been asking for proof that atheism is correct for a very > >>>> long time. > > >>>Easy .. > > >>>The theist position is to know that god exists > > >> To claim to KNOW is to claim to have proof. No sane person > >>would claim to KNOW there is a god. > >> I do believe, but freely admit I can't prove that God exists. > > >Then you're an agnostic theist. > > If so, everyone who believes in a deity would fall under the > term agnostic theist, since there is no way to prove any deity exists. > > > > >>>The atheist position is to not know that god exists > > >> That's an agnostic's position. > > >No, because it's not even part of their world view. > > Agnostics don't know if there is or is not a god. > > > > >>>There is no proof that god exists > > >> Exactly. It's a belief. > > >Somebody else's belief. The demands for proof are when they beg the > >question by rudely and stupidly talking about it to people outside > >their religion. Basically "put up or shut up". But they have neither > >the integrity nor the courtesy to do either. > > I freely admit I can't prove the existence of God. I can > point to aspects of my life that support the idea that God does exist, > but it's not PROOF. > > > > >>>We cannot conclude that god exists or does not exist > >>>Gods existance is unknown > >>>The atheist position is correct > > >> That's not the atheist position. You've done a GREAT job of > >>explaining the agnostic position. > > >Only in the ignorant imagination of people who don't know what an > >atheist is. > > Whereas ignorance is nothing more than a lack of knowledge. > Everyone is ignorant. Your attempt to insult me has failed. Actually, that is incorrect. To be ignorant means to be unaware. Two hundred years ago, scientists had no knowledge of relativity or quantum mechanics. Were they ignorant? Martin
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 12:38
On May 5, 9:39 pm, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on 4 May 2007 23:00:48 -0700, Martin Phipps > > > > > > <martinphip...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On May 5, 7:30 am, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> As I understand it, on Thu, 3 May 2007 20:16:21 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" > > >> <u...(a)man.jp> wrote: > >> >Meta wrote: > >> >> On May 3, 7:07 am, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >> >>> tjab wrote: > >> >>>> In article <59srujF2l7n0...(a)mid.individual.net>, > >> >>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >> >>>>> Kent Wills wrote: > > >> >>>>>> Where's the proof that atheism is correct? Why do you run and > >> >>>>>> hide when I ask about it? > > >> >>>>> I will gladly show that your pig-ignorant grotesque > >> >>>>> perverted superstition that you call christianity is > >> >>>>> utterly false. > > >Hey! What did you snip here?! > > >> >> Those are some pretty harsh accusations - a superstition, huh? > > >> >Irrefutably. > > >> Then explain why you run away when asked to prove it. > > >It's been proven time and time again that your god is a mythological > >character no different from Zeus or Amun-Ra. > > So why do people fail to prove it when I ask? It should be a > simple matter of cut and paste if your statement is accurate. > > >Just do google searches > >for "Elohim" and "Annuaki" and note the similarly between your > >religion and ancient Sumerian beliefs. Sumerian mythology inspired > >all of Western mythology, including Judeo-Christianity. Thus Judeo- > >Christianity is a set of mythological beliefs no different than > >ancient Greek or Egyptian mythological beliefs. QED > > Can you prove those beliefs are wrong? I don't believe that > ancient Greek/Roman/Egyptian beliefs are true, but I'm honest enough > to admit I can't prove them true or untrue. > I believe these other gods do not exist, and freely state it. If you do not believe in Zeus or Amun-Ra then why would you believe in the Judeo-Christian god? Most people would consider a proof that the Christian god is no different from Zeus to be proof that no gods exist: after all, you can go to Mt. Olympus and see for yourself that Zeus does not exist. Likewise, man has been to the moon and robots have been sent to Mars and unmanned spacecraft have been sent to the outer planets, etc. etc. etc. Not only are there no gods on Earth but there are no gods in the so called "heavens". Our technology has caught up with the limits of what we were able to imagine in the past and what we were able to imagine in the past has been proven to be only myth. Martin |