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From: Jeckyl on 6 May 2007 08:55 "Kent Wills" <compuelf(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:galp33t4ath27f5d140272j53uf9bi9qu0(a)4ax.com... > Agnostics accept that deities are possible. They simply state > they don't know. > An atheist believes there is no possibility of any gods. No .. atheists do not believe gods exist .. not the same as believing gods do not exist.
From: Kent Wills on 6 May 2007 01:56 As I understand it, on Sat, 5 May 2007 13:08:28 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof(a)jonez.net> wrote: >Kent Wills wrote: >> As I understand it, on 4 May 2007 22:54:34 -0700, Martin Phipps >> <martinphipps2(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> On May 5, 7:42 am, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Do TRY and be honest. This will be VERY difficult for you, >>>> I'm sure. But try. With each occurrence of honesty, you'll find it >>>> easier and easier. Soon it will be very natural. >>> >>> How would you know? >>> >> >> I know more about psychology than the average person on the >> street. It comes from a combination of being married to a >> Psychologist and reading her books when my insomnia kicks in. > >And what does your psychologist wife say about your god/religious >delusions, eh Kent? Since you can't prove it is a delusion, only that you believe it's a delusion, she doesn't say anything. > >Is she deluded too? > Nope. That's your issue to address, as you so accurately proved in another post (though it wasn't your intention to do so) not mine nor hers. -- Kent Take too many pictures, laugh too much, and love like you've never been hurt because every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back
From: Christopher A.Lee on 6 May 2007 11:15 On Sun, 06 May 2007 00:56:03 -0500, Kent Wills <compuelf(a)gmail.com> wrote: >As I understand it, on Sat, 5 May 2007 13:08:28 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez >_" <theprof(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >>Kent Wills wrote: >>> As I understand it, on 4 May 2007 22:54:34 -0700, Martin Phipps >>> <martinphipps2(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On May 5, 7:42 am, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do TRY and be honest. This will be VERY difficult for you, >>>>> I'm sure. But try. With each occurrence of honesty, you'll find it >>>>> easier and easier. Soon it will be very natural. >>>> >>>> How would you know? >>>> >>> >>> I know more about psychology than the average person on the >>> street. It comes from a combination of being married to a >>> Psychologist and reading her books when my insomnia kicks in. >> >>And what does your psychologist wife say about your god/religious >>delusions, eh Kent? > > Since you can't prove it is a delusion, only that you believe >it's a delusion, she doesn't say anything. Learn the difference between a belief and a conclusion.
From: Jim07D7 on 6 May 2007 12:32 Kent Wills <compuelf(a)gmail.com> said: >As I understand it, on Sat, 5 May 2007 13:08:28 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez <...> >> >>And what does your psychologist wife say about your god/religious >>delusions, eh Kent? > > Since you can't prove it is a delusion, only that you believe >it's a delusion, she doesn't say anything. <...> In evidence of intense religiosity being a delusion, we have 2,000 years of efforts to KEEP the god character's existence undisprovable, by reinterpretation of scriptures whenever the challenges are just too compelling, and recasting the attributes of the god, most notably increasing emphasis on its "incomprehensibility". This is a behavior of the deluded. There certain other parallels between the god delusion and other common delusions, based on references that can be readily found by those interested. Finally, we have the evidence of the intensely religious, who point to other religions as containing diametrically opposed delusions. Even the deluded can recognize other delusions, if not his own. Thus believing that it is a delusion, is well founded. Your turn. How well founded is believing the delusion? Then we can compare the two positions.
From: Jim07D7 on 6 May 2007 12:34
"Jeckyl" <noone(a)nowhere.com> said: >"Kent Wills" <compuelf(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:galp33t4ath27f5d140272j53uf9bi9qu0(a)4ax.com... >> Agnostics accept that deities are possible. They simply state >> they don't know. >> An atheist believes there is no possibility of any gods. > >No .. atheists do not believe gods exist .. not the same as believing gods >do not exist. > You are dealing with part of the theist's delusion. Not likely to change his mind. |