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From: T.J. Higgins on 11 Aug 2010 14:28
In article <DLWdnb8hkaWPEP_RnZ2dnUVZ5r6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, hls wrote:
>
>"C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:mt-dnThtVN8zgf_RnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>> U.S. study finds driver error in most Toyota accidents
>
>Isnt that what was found in the Audi cases some years ago? AFAIK,
>they never found a failure in the systems in those cases.

You are correct. The official finding in the Audi situation was
"pedal misapplication." Audi redesigned the pedals and evenutually
renamed the cars.


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From: Clive on 11 Aug 2010 15:25
In message <prfa4wwv35md.1v1pnxhrx9khd$.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Michael Dobony
<survey(a)stopassaultnow.net> writes
>On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:44:48 -0400, C. E. White wrote:
>> U.S. study finds driver error in most Toyota accidents
>> Automaker acknowledges other research, independent corroboration is needed
>> Staff and wire reports August 10, 2010 - 4:01 pm ET
>> UPDATED: 8/10/10 6:56 p.m. ET
>> WASHINGTON -- Brakes weren't applied by drivers of Toyota vehicles in at
>> least 35 of 58 crashes blamed on unintended acceleration, U.S. auto-safety
>> regulators said after studying data recorders.
The others had no record of anything.
>That leaves 23 of 58 crashes blamed on unintended acceleration where the
>driver DID apply the breaks. Interesting deflection technique, a technique
>of the guilty.
How do you know breaks were applied? Were you there, causing the
fault, or is it just your imagination.
What about all the vehicles with automatic transmissions that would drop
into reverse if left unattended and were never repaired because it would
bankrupt the company?
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Clive

From: Clive on 11 Aug 2010 15:30
In message <KeA8o.55691$Zp1.45373(a)newsfe15.iad>, JoeSpareBedroom
<newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> writes
>"But Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons acknowledged this evening that the
>company's black boxes have limited capability because they typically produce
>data only when the airbag is activated.
As the airbag is activated on impact, are you trying to tell the world
that everyone takes their foot off of the brake the moment they know
they're going to crash? I KNOW I wouldn't.
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Clive

From: hls on 11 Aug 2010 18:05

"Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> What about all the vehicles with automatic transmissions that would drop
> into reverse if left unattended and were never repaired because it would
> bankrupt the company?
> --
> Clive

We in fact dont know what happened.
I dont remember specifically what cars dropped into reverse.. Could you
refresh my memory?
From: Nate Nagel on 11 Aug 2010 18:25
On 08/11/2010 06:05 PM, hls wrote:
>
> "Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> What about all the vehicles with automatic transmissions that would
>> drop into reverse if left unattended and were never repaired because
>> it would bankrupt the company?
>> --
>> Clive
>
> We in fact dont know what happened. I dont remember specifically what
> cars dropped into reverse.. Could you
> refresh my memory?

Think it was Fords, back in the 70's... way long ago. only heard about
it, cars were beaters before I was old enough to notice.

nate

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