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From: Harry K on 11 Aug 2010 23:27
On Aug 11, 12:30 pm, Clive <cl...(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <KeA8o.55691$Zp1.45...(a)newsfe15.iad>, JoeSpareBedroom
> <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> writes>"But Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons acknowledged this evening that the
> >company's black boxes have limited capability because they typically produce
> >data only when the airbag is activated.
>
> As the airbag is activated on impact, are you trying to tell the world
> that everyone takes their foot off of the brake the moment they know
> they're going to crash?   I KNOW I wouldn't.
> --
> Clive

The most important information occurs prior to impact.

Harry K
From: Kev on 12 Aug 2010 05:02
Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 08/11/2010 06:05 PM, hls wrote:
>>
>> "Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> What about all the vehicles with automatic transmissions that would
>>> drop into reverse if left unattended and were never repaired because
>>> it would bankrupt the company?
>>> --
>>> Clive
>>
>> We in fact dont know what happened. I dont remember specifically what
>> cars dropped into reverse.. Could you
>> refresh my memory?
>
> Think it was Fords, back in the 70's... way long ago. only heard about
> it, cars were beaters before I was old enough to notice.


That would be the column auto shift cars
the ones where people would jam them into park without their foot on the
brake pedal or the vehicle was still moving and the gearbox wouldn't
properly engage park
also due to laziness wouldn't pull the lever forward far enough so that
the locking tag would wear out or break, in this case ther vehicle could
then be shifted between park, reverse, neutral and drive without pulling
the lever back(towards the steering wheel)

I have seen this plenty of times on older 60s and 70s cars and not just
fords either


Kev
From: chuckcar on 12 Aug 2010 09:19
kludge(a)panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
news:i3v8e2$ghi$1(a)panix2.panix.com:

> In article <xO-dnZOY5oUCg_7RnZ2dnUVZ5tOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
> hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote:
>>
>>"Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> What about all the vehicles with automatic transmissions that would
>>> drop into reverse if left unattended and were never repaired because
>>> it would bankrupt the company?
>>
>>We in fact dont know what happened.
>>I dont remember specifically what cars dropped into reverse.. Could
>>you refresh my memory?
>
> Dunno, but I had a Datsun 710 that dropped into reverse on the highway
> while the prindle was in drive. The end result was very exciting...
> it is amazing how much mechanical stuff is inside a transmission when
> all of a sudden it isn't inside any longer.

The problem would be all the cars behind you annoyed at all the caltrops
you dropped I imagine.<g>

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: chuckcar on 12 Aug 2010 09:19
Clive <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:AwoK8OZUpvYMFwYC(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk:

> In message <KeA8o.55691$Zp1.45373(a)newsfe15.iad>, JoeSpareBedroom
> <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> writes
>>"But Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons acknowledged this evening that the
>>company's black boxes have limited capability because they typically
>>produce data only when the airbag is activated.
> As the airbag is activated on impact, are you trying to tell the world
> that everyone takes their foot off of the brake the moment they know
> they're going to crash? I KNOW I wouldn't.


Last minute suicide pact <g>

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(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
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