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From: Brent on 15 Jun 2010 08:51 On 2010-06-15, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote: > > "T.J. Higgins" <ernest.p.worrell(a)vernal.equinox.edu> wrote in message > news:cZ-dnZ6C4Ine1YvRnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d(a)posted.hiwaay2... >> Coming to a roadway near you: unmanned aerial vehicles. >> >> <http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/14/government-pressure-open-skies-unmanned-drones-despite-safety-concerns/> >> > Fine by me. > > The speed limit need not be set by the 85th (or higher) percentile of the > fastest/most reckless drivers out there. It's clear enough to me that the > speed limits are posted adequately so anything the government can do to > ensure compliance with the posted limits gets approval from me. Of course you like it. You love control. > Consider--look what happens driving the speed limit, then going into a curve > or a sharper turn. Very little lateral pull forces, gentle forces at most, > usually quite non-existent if the curve has banking. Negligible vehicle > chassis lean. Tires are at no risk whatsoever of losing traction. That means > full control over the vehicle going in and out of the turn. Here you go again with your control freakish concept that everyone should live within the limits of your vehicle and your comfort. Full control is not determined by lack of feeling of anything. The idea that a quality modern vehicle designed for performance should be limited to what a 1950s sedan can handle without a hint of body roll is simply absurd. As I recall the standards were set by what would cause a package to slide in a typical 1950s sedan. > The same cannot be said of exceeding the speed limit, where the laterals are > noticeable, the vehicle chassis leans, the tires may even start to make > audible noises that they are losing traction. Clearly, the fastest and most > reckless drivers out there should not determine the speed limit. They don't. If you knew anything about engineering statistics you'd know they weren't. > So if the car, SUV, motorcycle, and/or helicopter law enforcement can't or > won't do their job sufficiently, I see absolutely no problem with the > unmanned drones doing the extra work. Because your solution to everything it seems is more state control this is of no surprise. I wonder how many laws you violate daily should some machine be watching you to tally up the score.
From: Brent on 15 Jun 2010 09:29 On 2010-06-15, lil abner <> wrote: > There were several old 30s road signs that read resume safe speed, > outside towns. http://www.archive.org/details/wreckless 1935 film. No speed limit outside of the town apparently. > The Interstate System was untended to handle 100+ miles per hour > initially. http://americanautobahn.piratenews.org/americanautobahnspeedsells.jpg "You Have to Slow Down to 90 for the Curves" Comfortable limited access highway driving in the 1930s.
From: Brent on 15 Jun 2010 09:32 On 2010-06-15, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote: > Consider--look what happens driving the speed limit, then going into a curve > or a sharper turn. Very little lateral pull forces, gentle forces at most, > usually quite non-existent if the curve has banking. Negligible vehicle > chassis lean. Tires are at no risk whatsoever of losing traction. That means > full control over the vehicle going in and out of the turn. Actually, come to think of it now, on interstates and decently built limited access highways any reasonably modern car in good condition that isn't some cheap little thing should feel that way at speeds of a 100mph or so.
From: N8N on 15 Jun 2010 09:38 On Jun 15, 9:29 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2010-06-15, lil abner <> wrote: > > > There were several old 30s road signs that read resume safe speed, > > outside towns. > > http://www.archive.org/details/wreckless > > 1935 film. No speed limit outside of the town apparently. > > > The Interstate System was untended to handle 100+ miles per hour > > initially. > > http://americanautobahn.piratenews.org/americanautobahnspeedsells.jpg > > "You Have to Slow Down to 90 for the Curves" > > Comfortable limited access highway driving in the 1930s. I don't know how many of the older sections of the PA Turnpike still exist in unmodified form, but the older sections extant when I was a kid looked far different, and *less* suitable for high speed (only two lanes each direction, narrower lanes/shoulders, somewhat sharper/less superelevated curves, etc.) than your average modern Interstate highway. So the roads have become much better, the vehicles driving on them more capable, BUT... nate
From: T.J. Higgins on 15 Jun 2010 10:12
In article <prue16d2oei9gc3ceeg7o83ibm1815b035(a)4ax.com>, necromancer - ECHM wrote: >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:43:36 -0700, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." ><dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote: > >>"T.J. Higgins" <ernest.p.worrell(a)vernal.equinox.edu> wrote in message >>news:cZ-dnZ6C4Ine1YvRnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d(a)posted.hiwaay2... >>> Coming to a roadway near you: unmanned aerial vehicles. >>> >>> ><http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/14/government-pressure-open-skies-unmanned-drones-despite-safety-concerns/> >>> >>Fine by me. >> >>The speed limit need not be set by the 85th (or higher) percentile of the >>fastest/most reckless drivers out there. It's clear enough to me that the >>speed limits are posted adequately so anything the government can do to >>ensure compliance with the posted limits gets approval from me. > >And just what do we do when your precious UAV detects a speeder (sic)? >Fire a heat seeking missle at them? The article said the UAV would be used to get the license plate number of the speeding vehicle. I wonder if a polarized plate cover would be an effective countermeasure... -- TJH tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net |