From: Brent on
On 2010-06-18, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote:

> Easy. A performance driver is one who is 15+ over the speed limit on surface
> streets, highways, or interstates

Grey haired women driving full size buicks fit this description where I
live.

> Also, they are often using aggressive
> acceleration instead of gradual acceleration.

Ahh... you're one of these sloth drivers who takes a mile to get up to
45mph. The reason for brisk acceleration is simple and two fold. One it
allows for stringing green signals together and two it is a way for
compensating for absurdly low speed limits.

See: http://blip.tv/file/3771594

> Furthermore, they are often
> easily identified as driving well beyond the safe speed of traffic as
> evidenced by their car's front noticeably dipping whenever they have to
> brake hard. Additionally they are often aggressively turning and lane
> changing instead of smoothly and gradually turning and lane changing.

LOL. So because I don't crawl around corners I'm "aggressive"? You're so
full of it. The fact is I know how to drive a little better and that's
about it. When the speed limit is so low that I can turn a corner at the
posted speed limit comfortably, I'm not going to slow down.

> As an example, consider a two lane road at 55mph. The performance driver's
> vehicle is instead doing 70mph.

This describes women in their 70s and 80s driving buicks IME.

> This driver also uses passing zones

Because passing zones aren't supposed to be used????
Oh are you like that woman in the mini van I once encountered on a two
lane road? She was doing about 40 in a 50 and I started passing her when
the passing zone opened up. she responded by accelerating. I accelerated
and completed the pass. She responded by tailgating. These are the kind
of drivers who think passing zones shouldn't be used.

> and
> aggressively accelerates, then usually quickly whips back into the lane as
> if they need to show the person they passed their aggression.

Um, your perception filter is off. To make a pass on a two lane road you
don't sit in the oncoming lane for any longer than required. If they
wanted to show aggression they would cut back over so you had to brake
hard.

> When taking
> the winding turns, chassis lean is quite visible. If they have to brake,
> they wait until they are right up on the bumper of the vehicle they
> approached, then brake with a noticeable dip of the front end of the
> vehicle.

Got a clue for you... it's visible in your vehicle too unless you're
going way slower than 55mph, which is probably why you're getting
passed.

> The person doing 55mph certainly isn't sloth, that's for sure. So then the
> performance driver is overdriving traffic and the road conditions.

Even old women don't drive that slow around here. Well not on the
interstates and other limited access highways, which are practically the
only roads with speed limits that high.

From: Daniel W. Rouse Jr. on

"Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hvetu6$clj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On 2010-06-18, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>
>> Easy. A performance driver is one who is 15+ over the speed limit on
>> surface
>> streets, highways, or interstates
>
> Grey haired women driving full size buicks fit this description where I
> live.
>
>> Also, they are often using aggressive
>> acceleration instead of gradual acceleration.
>
> Ahh... you're one of these sloth drivers who takes a mile to get up to
> 45mph. The reason for brisk acceleration is simple and two fold. One it
> allows for stringing green signals together and two it is a way for
> compensating for absurdly low speed limits.
>
> See: http://blip.tv/file/3771594
>
>> Furthermore, they are often
>> easily identified as driving well beyond the safe speed of traffic as
>> evidenced by their car's front noticeably dipping whenever they have to
>> brake hard. Additionally they are often aggressively turning and lane
>> changing instead of smoothly and gradually turning and lane changing.
>
> LOL. So because I don't crawl around corners I'm "aggressive"? You're so
> full of it. The fact is I know how to drive a little better and that's
> about it. When the speed limit is so low that I can turn a corner at the
> posted speed limit comfortably, I'm not going to slow down.
>
>> As an example, consider a two lane road at 55mph. The performance
>> driver's
>> vehicle is instead doing 70mph.
>
> This describes women in their 70s and 80s driving buicks IME.
>
>> This driver also uses passing zones
>
> Because passing zones aren't supposed to be used????
> Oh are you like that woman in the mini van I once encountered on a two
> lane road? She was doing about 40 in a 50 and I started passing her when
> the passing zone opened up. she responded by accelerating. I accelerated
> and completed the pass. She responded by tailgating. These are the kind
> of drivers who think passing zones shouldn't be used.
>
>> and
>> aggressively accelerates, then usually quickly whips back into the lane
>> as
>> if they need to show the person they passed their aggression.
>
[snip...]

Again, pay attention now:

This driver also uses passing zones and aggressively accelerates.

Note that "and" is a conjunction. Logic-wise, "and" means both apply. So
using passing zones is not the issue by itself. Using passing zones and
aggressively accelerating is the issue.

From: Brent on
On 2010-06-18, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>
> "Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hvetu6$clj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 2010-06-18, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>>
>>> Easy. A performance driver is one who is 15+ over the speed limit on
>>> surface
>>> streets, highways, or interstates
>>
>> Grey haired women driving full size buicks fit this description where I
>> live.
>>
>>> Also, they are often using aggressive
>>> acceleration instead of gradual acceleration.
>>
>> Ahh... you're one of these sloth drivers who takes a mile to get up to
>> 45mph. The reason for brisk acceleration is simple and two fold. One it
>> allows for stringing green signals together and two it is a way for
>> compensating for absurdly low speed limits.
>>
>> See: http://blip.tv/file/3771594
>>
>>> Furthermore, they are often
>>> easily identified as driving well beyond the safe speed of traffic as
>>> evidenced by their car's front noticeably dipping whenever they have to
>>> brake hard. Additionally they are often aggressively turning and lane
>>> changing instead of smoothly and gradually turning and lane changing.
>>
>> LOL. So because I don't crawl around corners I'm "aggressive"? You're so
>> full of it. The fact is I know how to drive a little better and that's
>> about it. When the speed limit is so low that I can turn a corner at the
>> posted speed limit comfortably, I'm not going to slow down.
>>
>>> As an example, consider a two lane road at 55mph. The performance
>>> driver's
>>> vehicle is instead doing 70mph.
>>
>> This describes women in their 70s and 80s driving buicks IME.

>>> This driver also uses passing zones

>> Because passing zones aren't supposed to be used????
>> Oh are you like that woman in the mini van I once encountered on a two
>> lane road? She was doing about 40 in a 50 and I started passing her when
>> the passing zone opened up. she responded by accelerating. I accelerated
>> and completed the pass. She responded by tailgating. These are the kind
>> of drivers who think passing zones shouldn't be used.
>>
>>> and
>>> aggressively accelerates, then usually quickly whips back into the lane
>>> as
>>> if they need to show the person they passed their aggression.

> [snip...]
>
> Again, pay attention now:

> This driver also uses passing zones and aggressively accelerates.

Yes (considering what you call aggressive is probably what most people
consider swiftly). That's how you properly use a passing zone, you
accelerate swiftly so you're not there very long. So you're saying that
they aren't to be used since you think that people should use them with
gradual acceleration. What few passing zones I encounter on two lane
roads are far far too brief to even accomplish a pass with gradual
acceleration. Not to mention the fact that gradual acceleration means
finding a exponentionally large gap in on coming traffic and leaves one
at the mercy of the sloth, often a control freak, who reacts badly to
the attempted pass.

> Note that "and" is a conjunction. Logic-wise, "and" means both apply. So
> using passing zones is not the issue by itself. Using passing zones and
> aggressively accelerating is the issue.

Um, the 'and' is a duh. That's how you're supposed to pass on two lane
roads. You accelerate such that you get it over with quickly. That's
what's safest.

I am sure my accelerating from 40 to 50mph with my 1.8L four cylinder
car would be considered aggressive by you because I do it swiftly to
avoid being in the oncoming lane any longer than neccesscary. Another
problem is that people getting passed decide that they have to block
like the woman in the mini van that I described. The best way to deal
with it is to pre-emptively accelerate such that they can't block and
trap you in the oncoming lane.


From: Nate Nagel on
On 06/18/2010 01:38 AM, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. wrote:
>
> "Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hvetu6$clj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 2010-06-18, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>>
>>> Easy. A performance driver is one who is 15+ over the speed limit on
>>> surface
>>> streets, highways, or interstates
>>
>> Grey haired women driving full size buicks fit this description where I
>> live.
>>
>>> Also, they are often using aggressive
>>> acceleration instead of gradual acceleration.
>>
>> Ahh... you're one of these sloth drivers who takes a mile to get up to
>> 45mph. The reason for brisk acceleration is simple and two fold. One it
>> allows for stringing green signals together and two it is a way for
>> compensating for absurdly low speed limits.
>>
>> See: http://blip.tv/file/3771594
>>
>>> Furthermore, they are often
>>> easily identified as driving well beyond the safe speed of traffic as
>>> evidenced by their car's front noticeably dipping whenever they have to
>>> brake hard. Additionally they are often aggressively turning and lane
>>> changing instead of smoothly and gradually turning and lane changing.
>>
>> LOL. So because I don't crawl around corners I'm "aggressive"? You're so
>> full of it. The fact is I know how to drive a little better and that's
>> about it. When the speed limit is so low that I can turn a corner at the
>> posted speed limit comfortably, I'm not going to slow down.
>>
>>> As an example, consider a two lane road at 55mph. The performance
>>> driver's
>>> vehicle is instead doing 70mph.
>>
>> This describes women in their 70s and 80s driving buicks IME.
>>
>>> This driver also uses passing zones
>>
>> Because passing zones aren't supposed to be used????
>> Oh are you like that woman in the mini van I once encountered on a two
>> lane road? She was doing about 40 in a 50 and I started passing her when
>> the passing zone opened up. she responded by accelerating. I accelerated
>> and completed the pass. She responded by tailgating. These are the kind
>> of drivers who think passing zones shouldn't be used.
>>
>>> and
>>> aggressively accelerates, then usually quickly whips back into the
>>> lane as
>>> if they need to show the person they passed their aggression.
>>
> [snip...]
>
> Again, pay attention now:
>
> This driver also uses passing zones and aggressively accelerates.
>
> Note that "and" is a conjunction. Logic-wise, "and" means both apply. So
> using passing zones is not the issue by itself. Using passing zones and
> aggressively accelerating is the issue.

Start making sense soon, bucko, you're perilously close to the
bit-bucket. I've got an especially low tolerance for idiots who post
nonsense this week.

nate

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From: T.J. Higgins on
In article <hvetu6$clj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Brent wrote:
>On 2010-06-18, Daniel W. Rouse Jr. <dwrousejr(a)nethere.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>
>> Easy. A performance driver is one who is 15+ over the speed limit on surface
>> streets, highways, or interstates
>
>Grey haired women driving full size buicks fit this description where I
>live.
>
>> Also, they are often using aggressive
>> acceleration instead of gradual acceleration.
>
>Ahh... you're one of these sloth drivers who takes a mile to get up to
>45mph. The reason for brisk acceleration is simple and two fold. One it
>allows for stringing green signals together and two it is a way for
>compensating for absurdly low speed limits.
>
>See: http://blip.tv/file/3771594

Brisk acceleration gets you into top gear sooner, increasing
fuel economy.

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