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From: Vic Smith on 3 Feb 2010 18:25
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:37:47 -0500, "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:

>
>That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the patrol
>officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down for at least
>3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any of the other 3
>(?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into neutral?
>
I think Tegger answered that question. Something about different
shift modes on the shifter. More unnecessary complication.

--Vic


From: cuhulin on 3 Feb 2010 19:12
Toyota guy Ray LaHood, at first he said, Park your Toyotas.A few hours
later he said he made a mistatement.What he had meant to say was take
your Toyota to the dealer, they have the parts to fix it.

I saw on local tv news today, Chevrolet/Toyota dealership around here,
they are getting the parts and are staying open late, working overtime
to fix peoples Toyotas.
cuhulin

From: David Z on 3 Feb 2010 19:57
"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:37:47 -0500, "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the
>>patrol
>>officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down for at
>>least
>>3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any of the other 3
>>(?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into neutral?
>>
> I think Tegger answered that question. Something about different
> shift modes on the shifter. More unnecessary complication.

What does that mean?

Is he saying that, in some "shift mode," the ES doesn't allow you to shift
from Drive to Neutral? at high speed? What "shift mode" would that be?


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 20:00
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:21:04 -0500, David Z wrote:

>> My car -- a '94 BMW -- tells me on occasion that the radio has been
>> stolen, or it has been in a wreck (the emergency flashers turn on for no
>> apparent reason), or the window rolls itself down a half-inch at a time.
>> All of this stuff comes about due to an electrical problem that I've not
>> been able to get my arms around. I can't help but wonder if the
>> fly-by-wire fuel system is being affected by a similar kind of gremlin
>> that works over my BMW from time to time.
>
> I'm not confident that Toyota has "found the problem" and "designed the
> fix" in a couple of days. The pressure they are under is more conducive
> to getting it "right away" rather than getting it right.


The affected vehicles have pedals made (or supplied through) a US company.
Japanese sourced vehicles have not exhibited the problem.

ALWAYS buy a "J" VIN Toyota!


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 3 Feb 2010 20:01
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:26:59 -0600, hls wrote:

>
> "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:7sub38Fs5pU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>
>> I'm not confident that Toyota has "found the problem" and "designed the
>> fix" in a couple of days. The pressure they are under is more conducive
>> to getting it "right away" rather than getting it right.
>
>
> ********
> We will see. I heard an interview with a dealership owner and Avalon
> driver today
> and he was asked point blank if he were certain this will be a fix. What
> else could
> he say but "yes". He had never had an issue with his Avalon.
>
> Neither have I .
>
> I am going to assume that this WILL be a fix, but I will not forget how to
> shift to
> neutral, brake, and punch the button.


And next time buy a "J" VIN Toyota...


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