From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:23:11 -0800, ransley wrote:

>> > Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350
>> > included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized
>> > this problem?
>>
>> It was the floor mats in that case. Not the Japan sourced gas pedal.
>
> More likely he was at fault and called 911 after the accident and the car
> was stopped.

He was calling 911 and said, "My throttle is stuck!" and then asked them
to clear an intersection for him.

They didn't. He did. Taking out a truck with him.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:57:11 -0500, David Z wrote:

> "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ob1km5tg2ua5pg1ql7tialac583t0u7bbn(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:37:47 -0500, "David Z" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That's another unanswered question I have. I can understand that the
>>>patrol
>>>officer was unaware that you need to hold the start button down for at
>>>least
>>>3 seconds to shut the engine off. But how could he, or any of the other
>>>3 (?) people in the car, not know how to shift the car into neutral?
>>>
>> I think Tegger answered that question. Something about different shift
>> modes on the shifter. More unnecessary complication.
>
> What does that mean?
>
> Is he saying that, in some "shift mode," the ES doesn't allow you to shift
> from Drive to Neutral? at high speed? What "shift mode" would that be?

Sport mode accessed through a 'gate'. Have to move back to drive and then
to neutral.



From: dr_jeff on
Ashton Crusher wrote:

> My recollection was that after the first reports came out talking
> about a rug it was determined that the vehicle did not have any mats
> in it.

There's a neat free service called Google. Use it.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/25/nation/na-toyota-crash25
From: Mike Hunter on
According to todays Tribune Newspapers, the Chairman of the House Oversight
Committee is stating Toyota will be asked about runaways problems with the
Tacoma truck.

The NHTSA has received over 100 complaints about sudden uncontrolled
accelerations problem on the Tacoma, their truck that does NOT use the same
pedal assembly as the other recalled Toyotas.

The article also refers to Japans Transport Ministry releasing that their
have been numerous complaints about "braking problems" with NEW generation
Prius. Toyota admits they are addressing braking problems in previous
Prius models but they are "unaware" of problems in the NEW generation Prius.

The ever growing issue over sudden uncontrolled acceleration in most every
type of Toyota vehicle is having a sensitizing effect on consumers around
the world and Toyotas confusing responses are not helping the situation.
Curious ah?


"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
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>>>> Also, you snipped and ignored my main question -- why isn't the ES350
>>>> included in the recall since it was an ES350 that initially publicized
>>>> this problem?
>>> it had a different cause of sticking accelerator: The rug. IT was
>>> covered by a different recall.
>>
>> That's where I get real skeptical. Are we supposed to believe that these
>> problems are unrelated? It's possible, but it stretches credulity.
>
> It's quite possible. We'll see.