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From: stephen.hull on 14 Jun 2010 16:49 In message <iakb16dn676rvm1vdp2m61djov2u72ip11(a)4ax.com> Peter Hill <peter.usenet1(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:40:00 +0100, stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com wrote: > >>Also I worked in the paint finishing shop which was designed to >>repaint areas that may have been damaged during assembly but >>because it took three months to build one car they were all >>covered in slight damage and had to be completely sprayed. > >DOH! You put protectors over the bits that get damage. Yes they did use protectors mainly for the front wings but the paint work was still not up to the high standard even without minor damage. May be the people on the build new it was going to be fully sprayed anyway so it didn't matter if there was slight damage. Stephen. -- http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce
From: stephen.hull on 14 Jun 2010 17:21 In message <hv4q5b$jnu$4(a)news.eternal-september.org> "Jerry" <mapson.scarts(a)btinternet.INVALID> wrote: > >"Peter Hill" <peter.usenet1(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:iakb16dn676rvm1vdp2m61djov2u72ip11(a)4ax.com... >: On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:40:00 +0100, stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com >wrote: >: >: >Also I worked in the paint finishing shop which was designed >to >: >repaint areas that may have been damaged during assembly but >: >because it took three months to build one car they were all >: >covered in slight damage and had to be completely sprayed. >: >: DOH! You put protectors over the bits that get damage. >: > >Indeed and even if one doesn't it is quite possible to fit up a >body shell into a fully functioning car (in less time that RR >seems to have taken) without damaging the finished paintwork, so >unless the workforce of RR was especially careless... Like I said in my other post, perhaps they didn't need to be that careful knowing they were to be painted anyway. I remember being told at one time by a foreman that the finishing paint shop was supposed to just attend to minor paint damage during assembly but it turned out easier to repaint everything. Even without accidental damage, some paint work was substandard and needed further attention. The RR paint work inspectors used special lighting areas to view what would normally appear to be perfect paint work but their scrutiny would often reveal defects not normally seen. I remember seeing a Mercedese recently that had tracking lines and another having darker patches (blemishes), comparing those to a RR finish they were poorly finished, although some defects are very hard to see unless you know exactly what to look for. Stephen. -- http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce
From: Dave Plowman (News) on 14 Jun 2010 18:35 In article <1jk3iq8.1t3tgge171ajagN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote: > Dave Plowman (News) <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > > > And as I posted I've had a similar experience wih a Zenith > > > carburettor on a Land Rover. Several trips back to the garage before > > > they considered stripping the carburettor. Your assumption is that > > > all garages are 100% competent. > > > > Then find one which is. If it were a new vehicle and therefore a > > dealer I'd expect them to change the carb if they couldn't fix the > > fault. If a secondhand vehicle, find a garage that knows what they're > > doing. You really should stop using Halfords for servicing... > <yawn> We're talking about the past. > But today Kia announced they are recalling every Picanto ever made > because of fuel leaks. Apparently you think every car should have been > picked up on PDI, I'm talking about a simple carb fault. When carbs where the norm a decent garage would know how to strip and inspect one for flooding. Not like today when they only work to fault codes. I'm utterly amazed you don't understand this. Your father obviously did. -- *He who laughs last has just realised the joke. Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
From: Steve Firth on 15 Jun 2010 02:27 Dave Plowman (News) <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > > I'm talking about a simple carb fault. When carbs where the norm a decent > garage would know how to strip and inspect one for flooding. Not like > today when they only work to fault codes. When I talked about the Picanto I was talking about a simple fuel leak. You know the sort of thing that's even more obvious than a carburettor with a sticking float. A fuel leak where the fuel leaks from the vehicle and no matter whether it is petrol or diesel it is obvious because it stinks and there are traces of fuel visible. If the entire Kia dealer network can miss this, it suggests that PDIs are the 100% effective system that you and Jerry seem to think they are. > I'm utterly amazed you don't understand this. Oh, I can understand that having made an incorect declaration you're going to stick to repeating the same rubbish. I also know how to service carburettors, however the garage in question did not choose to strip the one on my fathers car. It's entirely possible that they decided it was too much like work and if they could pass the car off as "running" by tweaking the idle screw then that was good enough for them. Or maybe they were incompetent, although apparently that never happened in the mythical time that you believe in when garages were 100% efficient. > Your father obviously did. My father didn't understand why the garage hadn't stripped the carb, that's why he did it. That and a big dollop of not wanting to pay someone to do a job he could do better.
From: Jerry on 15 Jun 2010 04:30
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message news:1jk3ix5.spbfm9zqo14wN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... : Jerry <mapson.scarts(a)btinternet.INVALID> wrote: : : > "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message : > news:1jk1iti.1x20oh8y4qb6rN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... : > : > : you're a lying arsehole, but that has been known about you for : > : years. : > : > Stop talking about yourself all the time, Firth you are a liar : > and this thread stands testament to your lies and trolling. : : No Jerky it stands as a testatment to your lies. Another lie from Mr Firth. |