From: Ian Dalziel on 10 Aug 2010 03:12 On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:41:38 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:47:28 +0100, Ian Dalziel wrote: > >>>usually. Why don't you just accept the bloody obvious? >> >> Why don't you accept the law? > >I do, undertake (other than the exceptions) and you put yourself at risk of >prosecution. And where are the exceptions specified? No-one is disputing that overtaking on the nearside, in traffic, when there is a clear alternative, constitutes an offence. In most cases where a vehicle passes another on the nearside it is perfectly legal. There is no law which specifies that passing on the nearside is illegal - there couldn't be. There is no law which specifies that disregarding the Highway Code constitutes an offence. No, either quote a LAW which disproves what I am saying, or have another go at understanding the thread. -- Ian D
From: Ian Dalziel on 10 Aug 2010 03:14 On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:43:42 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:12:17 +0100, Ian Dalziel wrote: > >> The part which is confusing you is that you seem to think "dangerous" >> is spelt "careless". Go on - get your thumb paper out and try to read >> it again. C for cat, A for apple... > >the texts I went to the trouble of googling and reading related cases where >dangerous driving had been persued rather than careless, so I wouldn't >waste a lot of time on that irrelevance. Might those have been cases where the operation was dangerous, do you think? Or are you not going to waste any time on that irrelevance either? -- Ian D
From: Brimstone on 10 Aug 2010 07:03 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1wzfy5r522san.lenmr9nqfy3v$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:14:53 +0100, Ian Dalziel wrote: > >> Might those have been cases where the operation was dangerous, do you >> think? Or are you not going to waste any time on that irrelevance >> either? > > just stop wasting everybody's time with a load of pedantic bolox. > The word is "bollox".
From: Ian Dalziel on 10 Aug 2010 07:34 On 10 Aug, 09:29, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:12:40 +0100, Ian Dalziel wrote: > > or have > > another go at understanding the thread. > > stop being a prat. I have no answer to such incisive, devastating logic.
From: Nkosi (ama-ecosse) on 10 Aug 2010 08:01
On 9 Aug, 16:43, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:18:33 +0000 (UTC), boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: > > So why > > do they feel that undertaking is dangerous? > > because its unexpected. > -- > Mike > Gone Beyond the Ultimate Driving Machine It should be expected if you are hogging the outside lane of a dual carraigeway or a motorway and are refusing to move over to an inner lane (when the road ahead is clear in both lanes) through sheer stubbornness when a vehicle has come up behind you and is obviously driving quicker. It is inconsiderate to say the very least. The highway code says allow faster vehicles to overtake and judging by the opinions on here (and that is just what they are), then it is illegal not to move over. You are driving without due care and attention if you are not observing your rear view mirrors for traffic approaching from the rear, if you have noticed them, and don't move over then it can be argued that you are driving dangerously because you are instituting a scenario where a problem could occur because of your driving, you are therefore guilty of the higher charge of Dangerous Driving by failing to move over to the inner lane when it is clear to do so. I say Dangerous because I am not sure if there is such a charge as negligent driving where you put people at risk unwittingly as opposed to dangerous where people are put at risk because you just don't care. Now for the fuckwit in the Bannerman white van on the M9 this morning, my MGF will always be faster than your transit van. If you had moved over when you should have I would not have had to move into the inner lane to pass you, the inner lane coincedently where I could stay for the next 3 miles of clear motorway. That would mean you would not have gone red in the face, pumped up your blood pressure and nearly broken you indivcator and full beam switch stalk they way you must have as witnessed by the way in which you flashed your lights at me. Nkosi |