From: GT on
"OG" <owen(a)gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Phil Bradby" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On quiet motorways, I've long since given up sweeping out to L3 and then
>> all the way back to L1 to overtake an idiot bumbling along needlessly in
>> L2 - now I just undertake the selfish buggers.
>>
>> There are three reactions to this:
>>
>> 1) by far the most common, they just stay in their own world in the
>> middle lane
>>
>> 2) sometimes they twig that they're in the wrong lane and move left after
>> you pass them
>>
>> 3) but sometimes - this is the pet hate - they notice at the last minute
>> that they're being undertaken and suddenly pull back in to L1 when you're
>> almost on their tail, leaving you to swerve into L2. If they cut in very
>> close and the speed differential is high, this can be... heart-stopping.
>>
>> If people want to be selfish, let them do it - but why make things worse
>> by being so bloody, bloody stupid as well?
>>
>> PB
>
> Yup - so why do you do it?

Don't you mean - why do *they* do it? (although I do actually agree with
you!)


From: GT on
"Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Phil Bradby" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On quiet motorways, I've long since given up sweeping out to L3 and then
>> all the way back to L1 to overtake an idiot bumbling along needlessly in
>> L2 - now I just undertake the selfish buggers.
>>
>> There are three reactions to this:
>>
>> 1) by far the most common, they just stay in their own world in the
>> middle lane
>>
>> 2) sometimes they twig that they're in the wrong lane and move left after
>> you pass them
>>
>> 3) but sometimes - this is the pet hate - they notice at the last minute
>> that they're being undertaken and suddenly pull back in to L1 when you're
>> almost on their tail, leaving you to swerve into L2. If they cut in very
>> close and the speed differential is high, this can be... heart-stopping.
>>
>> If people want to be selfish, let them do it - but why make things worse
>> by being so bloody, bloody stupid as well?
>>
> So you know that they often cut back in, and yet you continue to
> undertake....
> Doesn't that sound a bit stupid.
> It's no effort to go round them on the correct side, so why not do it?

But his point is that he is fed up of having to move across 2 lanes to pass
a bad drivers, only to have to move across 2 lanes back into the correct
lane again afterwards. Undertaking is wrong, but sometimes these L2 hoggers
are just so annoying that one feels you have to make a point! I typically go
for the... 'move across both lanes and then signal left and pull sharply
back to L1 across their bow' maneouvre.


From: GT on
"Phil Bradby" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On quiet motorways, I've long since given up sweeping out to L3 and then
> all the way back to L1 to overtake an idiot bumbling along needlessly in
> L2 - now I just undertake the selfish buggers.
>
> There are three reactions to this:
>
> 1) by far the most common, they just stay in their own world in the
> middle lane
>
> 2) sometimes they twig that they're in the wrong lane and move left after
> you pass them
>
> 3) but sometimes - this is the pet hate - they notice at the last minute
> that they're being undertaken and suddenly pull back in to L1 when you're
> almost on their tail, leaving you to swerve into L2. If they cut in very
> close and the speed differential is high, this can be... heart-stopping.

Of course, not all motorways have 3 lanes. When the L2 hogger doesn't know
that you are behind them, what are you supposed to do? Obviously, the
correct answer is wait patiently behind them until they move back to the
correct L1, but after sitting there for 5 minutes moving from their left to
right mirrors and they still haven't moved, what then??


From: Derek Geldard on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:30:27 +0100, Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk>
wrote:


>
> Obviously not in the case of a Schumacher,

Cobblers !

Derek
From: GT on
"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:26:20 +0100, GT wrote:
>
>>> It is neither illegal nor dangerous./
>>
>> It is illegal to overtake on the left, unless you are on a 1 way street
>> or
>> the car is turning right.
>
> or where heavy traffic on dual happens to move faster on left

Ah - similar point to Brimstone's - I think the official line is 'slow
moving' traffic, not 'heavy traffic. If the traffic is flowing along at a
decent speed, then I don't think undertaking is legal, although nobody
bothers! Also, I don't know how we define 'slow moving' or 'decent speed'.