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From: IanT on 15 Jan 2010 16:36

"Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.25b97b4cd1a7440b989b5e(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <himvg3$cpv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Tim W says...
>>
>> There's been one down at Johns Cross roundabout on the A21, East Sussex
>> several days over the last few weeks, on the southbound side.
>>
>> He doesn't have a van, so I expect there's one parked 1/2 mile further
>> along
>> the A21 and he radios ahead with descriptions to pull.
>>
>> But what's he likely to be looking for?
>>
> Anything that will fail an MOT.
>
>
> --
> Conor

That is not entirely accurate. Any vehicle that has the MOT test and is
issued
with a certificate is warned that this is not to prove a vehicle is
roadworthy at
any point after the test has finished. There is no requirement to have an
MOT
at less than 12month intervals for normal cars and vans, but there is a
requirement
to keep a vehicle in a good state of repair, so VOSA could be challenged
over
the legality of their stop and test procedures. Don't confuse the obvious
MOT
test cerificate with vehicles in a bad state of repair, vehicles that are
overloaded
or vehicles without a road fund licence etc. They are very different and
one
doesn't mean that there will be another problem. VOSA can only advise that
a repair is carried out on a vehicle if it has previously passed the MOT
within
the last 12months. The powers they have are fairly restricted, but the
general
public are not aware of what they can and can't do or when they are acting
illegaly. I suggest you check with VOSA if you do not understand what they
are looking for or when. You will find they have a hit list of popular
vehicles
and types of driver, a positive discrimination system similar to the one
used by
police.




From: IanT on 15 Jan 2010 16:40

"johannes" <johs(a)sizef2475752927922424524itter.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Tim W wrote:
>>
>> There's been one down at Johns Cross roundabout on the A21, East Sussex
>> several days over the last few weeks, on the southbound side.
>>
>> He doesn't have a van, so I expect there's one parked 1/2 mile further
>> along
>> the A21 and he radios ahead with descriptions to pull.
>>
>> But what's he likely to be looking for?
>>
>> Smokey exhausts - that's a obvious candidate. But as you usually don't
>> have
>> to slow down below 20mph at that roundabout, it would be hard for him to
>> see
>> the state of the tyres or much else beyond extreme decrepidness.
>>
>> Not only, but if he does give you the eye, you have a choice to take the
>> right fork off the A21 roundabout towards Battle and there's not much
>> space
>> down that road for a van + a pull-over spot.
>>
>> Just curious what they do...
>
> Seen one in Slough. A WPC standing on road waving in some older cars,
> especially
> dirty ones which shows that the owner don't care.

My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean. I would need to
wash the car and wax it each day considering recent weather conditions.
You are a complete idiot! VOSA have very little power, that is why the
police were there.

>They were directed on the
> forecourt of a bingo hall. Looked like they checked steering slack, brakes
> (work or not work) lights and lamps.

You are quite funny, I hope you don't drive or they might need to do a
check for people with mental illness who shouldn't be driving! One of
many groups of people who shouldn't be in a car. It's not always about
a car, it is sometimes the driver who is incapable of controlling it in a
reasonable manner due to drink, drugs or disability.



From: johannes on 15 Jan 2010 17:15


IanT wrote:
>
> "johannes" <johs(a)sizef2475752927922424524itter.com> wrote in message
> news:4B4F7352.F521C9CD(a)sizef2475752927922424524itter.com...
> >
> >
> > Tim W wrote:
> >>
> >> There's been one down at Johns Cross roundabout on the A21, East Sussex
> >> several days over the last few weeks, on the southbound side.
> >>
> >> He doesn't have a van, so I expect there's one parked 1/2 mile further
> >> along
> >> the A21 and he radios ahead with descriptions to pull.
> >>
> >> But what's he likely to be looking for?
> >>
> >> Smokey exhausts - that's a obvious candidate. But as you usually don't
> >> have
> >> to slow down below 20mph at that roundabout, it would be hard for him to
> >> see
> >> the state of the tyres or much else beyond extreme decrepidness.
> >>
> >> Not only, but if he does give you the eye, you have a choice to take the
> >> right fork off the A21 roundabout towards Battle and there's not much
> >> space
> >> down that road for a van + a pull-over spot.
> >>
> >> Just curious what they do...
> >
> > Seen one in Slough. A WPC standing on road waving in some older cars,
> > especially
> > dirty ones which shows that the owner don't care.
>
> My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean. I would need to
> wash the car and wax it each day considering recent weather conditions.
> You are a complete idiot! VOSA have very little power, that is why the
> police were there.
>
> >They were directed on the
> > forecourt of a bingo hall. Looked like they checked steering slack, brakes
> > (work or not work) lights and lamps.
>
> You are quite funny, I hope you don't drive or they might need to do a
> check for people with mental illness who shouldn't be driving! One of
> many groups of people who shouldn't be in a car. It's not always about
> a car, it is sometimes the driver who is incapable of controlling it in a
> reasonable manner due to drink, drugs or disability.

I agree with you that there are too many mentally deranged drivers out
there. As you also have found out; it takes one to know another.
From: Mrcheerful on 15 Jan 2010 17:32
IanT wrote:
> My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean.

so you may well have filthy number plates, easy to spot and an easy nick.


From: Duncan Wood on 15 Jan 2010 19:59
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:10:53 -0000, Tim W <tw(a)dionic.net> wrote:

> IanT <noemail(a)email.co.uk>
> wibbled on Friday 15 January 2010 21:40
>
>
>> My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean. I would need
>> to wash the car and wax it each day considering recent weather
>> conditions.
>> You are a complete idiot! VOSA have very little power, that is why the
>> police were there.
>
> Do they actually have the power to stop and inspect without a police
> presence?
>
> For that matter, do HMRC, when they do tank dipping? (Or has that been
> handed over to VOSA?)
>

I can safely predict the Tiscali idioy doesn't know.


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Duncan Wood
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