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From: Duncan Wood on 15 Jan 2010 19:59
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:32:37 -0000, Mrcheerful <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

> IanT wrote:
>> My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean.
>
> so you may well have filthy number plates, easy to spot and an easy nick.
>
>

You're assuming he's allowed to drive a car.

--
Duncan Wood
From: Duncan Wood on 15 Jan 2010 20:02
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:36:54 -0000, IanT <noemail(a)email.co.uk> wrote:

>
> "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.25b97b4cd1a7440b989b5e(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <himvg3$cpv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Tim W says...
>>>
>>> There's been one down at Johns Cross roundabout on the A21, East Sussex
>>> several days over the last few weeks, on the southbound side.
>>>
>>> He doesn't have a van, so I expect there's one parked 1/2 mile further
>>> along
>>> the A21 and he radios ahead with descriptions to pull.
>>>
>>> But what's he likely to be looking for?
>>>
>> Anything that will fail an MOT.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Conor
>
> That is not entirely accurate. Any vehicle that has the MOT test and is
> issued
> with a certificate is warned that this is not to prove a vehicle is
> roadworthy at
> any point after the test has finished. There is no requirement to have
> an
> MOT
> at less than 12month intervals for normal cars and vans, but there is a
> requirement
> to keep a vehicle in a good state of repair, so VOSA could be challenged
> over
> the legality of their stop and test procedures. Don't confuse the
> obvious
> MOT
> test cerificate with vehicles in a bad state of repair, vehicles that are
> overloaded
> or vehicles without a road fund licence etc. They are very different and
> one
> doesn't mean that there will be another problem. VOSA can only advise
> that
> a repair is carried out on a vehicle if it has previously passed the MOT
> within
> the last 12months. The powers they have are fairly restricted, but the
> general
> public are not aware of what they can and can't do or when they are
> acting
> illegaly. I suggest you check with VOSA if you do not understand what
> they
> are looking for or when. You will find they have a hit list of popular
> vehicles
> and types of driver, a positive discrimination system similar to the one
> used by
> police.
>
>
>
>

If you want to post uninformed bilge you could always read the
construction & use regulations 1st then there's a chance that you won't
sound like an idiot. It's a pretty slim chance though.
--
Duncan Wood
From: Duncan Wood on 15 Jan 2010 21:22
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:10:53 -0000, Tim W <tw(a)dionic.net> wrote:

> IanT <noemail(a)email.co.uk>
> wibbled on Friday 15 January 2010 21:40
>
>
>> My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean. I would need
>> to wash the car and wax it each day considering recent weather
>> conditions.
>> You are a complete idiot! VOSA have very little power, that is why the
>> police were there.
>
> Do they actually have the power to stop and inspect without a police
> presence?
>

If it's been devolved to them e.g.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/newsandevents/pressreleases/2004pressreleases/10-08-04vosausingpowertostopinessex.htm

> For that matter, do HMRC, when they do tank dipping? (Or has that been
> handed over to VOSA?)
>

From: Mrcheerful on 16 Jan 2010 05:28
Duncan Wood wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:32:37 -0000, Mrcheerful <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> IanT wrote:
>>> My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean.
>>
>> so you may well have filthy number plates, easy to spot and an easy
>> nick.
>
> You're assuming he's allowed to drive a car.

true, true.

anyway, of course, to the OP the vosa man may also have been watching for
dodgy number plates, vanity plates, damaged, etc.


From: Conor on 16 Jan 2010 07:13
In article <hiqndb$snc$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, IanT says...
>
> "johannes" <johs(a)sizef2475752927922424524itter.com> wrote in message
> news:4B4F7352.F521C9CD(a)sizef2475752927922424524itter.com...
> >
> >
> > Tim W wrote:
> >>
> >> There's been one down at Johns Cross roundabout on the A21, East Sussex
> >> several days over the last few weeks, on the southbound side.
> >>
> >> He doesn't have a van, so I expect there's one parked 1/2 mile further
> >> along
> >> the A21 and he radios ahead with descriptions to pull.
> >>
> >> But what's he likely to be looking for?
> >>
> >> Smokey exhausts - that's a obvious candidate. But as you usually don't
> >> have
> >> to slow down below 20mph at that roundabout, it would be hard for him to
> >> see
> >> the state of the tyres or much else beyond extreme decrepidness.
> >>
> >> Not only, but if he does give you the eye, you have a choice to take the
> >> right fork off the A21 roundabout towards Battle and there's not much
> >> space
> >> down that road for a van + a pull-over spot.
> >>
> >> Just curious what they do...
> >
> > Seen one in Slough. A WPC standing on road waving in some older cars,
> > especially
> > dirty ones which shows that the owner don't care.
>
> My car is filthy at the moment, but the windows are clean. I would need to
> wash the car and wax it each day considering recent weather conditions.
> You are a complete idiot! VOSA have very little power, that is why the
> police were there.
>
VOSA can stop you being able to continue to even drive out of the
checkpoint. The Police are there when there is not a VOSA officer
available who has been given the powers to stop vehicles.



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Conor
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