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From: hippo on 5 Jun 2010 01:15 Noddy wrote: > > > "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message > news:4c09bcd1$0$14144$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > > Its difficult to find any performance figures for them but I did find this > > web site which gives figures for the XYGT (not HO) > > 0-100 6.5sec standing qtr 14.4sec > > Those are actually the GTHO figures. The standard GT was a tad slower. The > XW GTHO was a poofteenth quicker at 14.2. > > > RS3100 Capri 0-100 4.2secs standing qtr 13.1 which is substantially > > quicker than the XY, maybe its the model they were talking about? > > http://fat.ly/7dbdj > > Isn't the RS3100 the late model Capri like that used in "The Professionals" > TV Series? > > I was talking about the late 60's early 70's model specifically, although I > wouldn't be surprised if the later ones were a damn sight quicker. The > RS2000 Escort was an *extremely* fun car and pretty quick compared to a > standard garden variety 2 litre Escort. > > I can't remember where I read it, but if memory serves there was a limited > edition early model Capri out of South Africa that came standard with a 289. > It was known by some "animal" name like a "Mongoose" or "Viper" or some > such, and apparently was pretty quick. They were only ever made as a very > low volume thing and never available here, but a few have managed to find > their way here over the years. > > As for the old original V6 Capri that we saw here years ago, I seem to > recall 1/4 mile times in the low 16's for the things. I've got a stack of > old Wheels & Motor magazines that date from the period so I'll see if I can > dig one out and find anything. if 16's were the kind of times they ran that > would certainly fit with my memory of them anyway. > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > > > > RS3100 was indeed the later one. The Mk1 was the 3000GT, with the old Zephyr6/Zodiac straight 3L droppped in. Something like 8.5 0-60MPH & mid 16s for a standing quarter mile would be about right, which was still pretty good for a 3L coupe in the late 60s. -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: D Walford on 5 Jun 2010 01:25 On 5/06/2010 3:15 PM, hippo wrote: > Noddy wrote: >> >> >> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message >> news:4c09bcd1$0$14144$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >>> Its difficult to find any performance figures for them but I did find this >>> web site which gives figures for the XYGT (not HO) >>> 0-100 6.5sec standing qtr 14.4sec >> >> Those are actually the GTHO figures. The standard GT was a tad slower. The >> XW GTHO was a poofteenth quicker at 14.2. >> >>> RS3100 Capri 0-100 4.2secs standing qtr 13.1 which is substantially >>> quicker than the XY, maybe its the model they were talking about? >>> http://fat.ly/7dbdj >> >> Isn't the RS3100 the late model Capri like that used in "The Professionals" >> TV Series? >> >> I was talking about the late 60's early 70's model specifically, although I >> wouldn't be surprised if the later ones were a damn sight quicker. The >> RS2000 Escort was an *extremely* fun car and pretty quick compared to a >> standard garden variety 2 litre Escort. >> >> I can't remember where I read it, but if memory serves there was a limited >> edition early model Capri out of South Africa that came standard with a 289. >> It was known by some "animal" name like a "Mongoose" or "Viper" or some >> such, and apparently was pretty quick. They were only ever made as a very >> low volume thing and never available here, but a few have managed to find >> their way here over the years. >> >> As for the old original V6 Capri that we saw here years ago, I seem to >> recall 1/4 mile times in the low 16's for the things. I've got a stack of >> old Wheels& Motor magazines that date from the period so I'll see if I can >> dig one out and find anything. if 16's were the kind of times they ran that >> would certainly fit with my memory of them anyway. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Noddy. >> >> >> >> >> > > RS3100 was indeed the later one. The Mk1 was the 3000GT, with the old > Zephyr6/Zodiac straight 3L droppped in. Something like 8.5 0-60MPH& mid > 16s for a standing quarter mile would be about right, which was still > pretty good for a 3L coupe in the late 60s. > One article I found quoted from a Ford ad that it would reach 100mph "inside 10secs" http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_ford_capri_gtv6.htm Daryl
From: hippo on 5 Jun 2010 01:45 D Walford wrote: > > On 5/06/2010 3:15 PM, hippo wrote: > > Noddy wrote: > >> > >> > >> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message > >> news:4c09bcd1$0$14144$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >> > >>> Its difficult to find any performance figures for them but I did find this > >>> web site which gives figures for the XYGT (not HO) > >>> 0-100 6.5sec standing qtr 14.4sec > >> > >> Those are actually the GTHO figures. The standard GT was a tad slower. The > >> XW GTHO was a poofteenth quicker at 14.2. > >> > >>> RS3100 Capri 0-100 4.2secs standing qtr 13.1 which is substantially > >>> quicker than the XY, maybe its the model they were talking about? > >>> http://fat.ly/7dbdj > >> > >> Isn't the RS3100 the late model Capri like that used in "The Professionals" > >> TV Series? > >> > >> I was talking about the late 60's early 70's model specifically, although I > >> wouldn't be surprised if the later ones were a damn sight quicker. The > >> RS2000 Escort was an *extremely* fun car and pretty quick compared to a > >> standard garden variety 2 litre Escort. > >> > >> I can't remember where I read it, but if memory serves there was a limited > >> edition early model Capri out of South Africa that came standard with a 289. > >> It was known by some "animal" name like a "Mongoose" or "Viper" or some > >> such, and apparently was pretty quick. They were only ever made as a very > >> low volume thing and never available here, but a few have managed to find > >> their way here over the years. > >> > >> As for the old original V6 Capri that we saw here years ago, I seem to > >> recall 1/4 mile times in the low 16's for the things. I've got a stack of > >> old Wheels& Motor magazines that date from the period so I'll see if I can > >> dig one out and find anything. if 16's were the kind of times they ran that > >> would certainly fit with my memory of them anyway. > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Noddy. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > RS3100 was indeed the later one. The Mk1 was the 3000GT, with the old > > Zephyr6/Zodiac straight 3L droppped in. Something like 8.5 0-60MPH& mid > > 16s for a standing quarter mile would be about right, which was still > > pretty good for a 3L coupe in the late 60s. > > > One article I found quoted from a Ford ad that it would reach 100mph > "inside 10secs" > http://fat.ly/aq68z > > > Daryl > > The '69 Mk1 woud barely reach 100MPH in *30* seconds. It took 9.5 to reach 60MPH! Maybe the Oz one had more power? The article claims 144Hp against 135 for the UK market model and 195Km/H instead of 185. That's still only around the same power/weight ratio as a Proton Satria Gti or the original Peugeot 206 GTi (not the 170). They'll both do well under 10s 0-100, but not for 0-160! The Cosworth version of the Mk4 reportedly put out 435Hp. That sounds closer to being able to achieve those sort of numbers. Cheers -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: Dan--- on 5 Jun 2010 02:09 "hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in message news:hucmgm$rv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> > > RS3100 was indeed the later one. The Mk1 was the 3000GT, with the old > Zephyr6/Zodiac straight 3L droppped in. Something like 8.5 0-60MPH & mid > 16s for a standing quarter mile would be about right, which was still > pretty good for a 3L coupe in the late 60s. An old 78-85 202 powered Holden Commodore would stuggle to do those times. :-) --- Regards Dan
From: D Walford on 5 Jun 2010 02:55
On 5/06/2010 4:22 PM, Blue Heeler wrote: > D Walford wrote: > >> On 5/06/2010 11:24 AM, Blue Heeler wrote: >>> D Walford wrote: >>> >>>> According to blokes I used to work with at Ford a 3L V6 Capri >>>> would keep up with an XYGT to 100mph, >>> >>> >>> And the (Cosworth? Cologne) improved Essex would totally embarrass a >>> XYGT >> >> Don't know of that model so not sold in Australia? >> >> > > Here's a few links. > > Probably fortunate for the XYGT "legend" that they never met a final > edition V6-GAA Cosworth Capri with the rubber under it that it was > designed for. 455hp in a (lightened) Capri body. I suspect things would > not have gone well for the GT. > > http://homepages.ezysurf.co.nz/~collx/RS3100GP2.pdf > > > http://www.aussies-online.com/Allan-Moffat/Capri.html > Nice toys but they seem to be race only cars and not street legal so not really much of a comparison although the RS3100 that it was based on was a street car and an XYGT beater. Daryl |