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From: Jason James on 17 Jun 2010 18:25 In the UK you can have your car crushed for being DUI and/or driving an unroadworthy vehicle, plus driving uninsured can get your car crushed. This draconian punishment is spreading, to places like New Zealand. Must say I'm surprised that car-crushing is used in the UK. Imean England is where our Democratic system of government and law eminated from! I fail to see how destroying property is representative of a democratic society. Confiscate, sure,...then sell it at auction and use the funds recovered to pay off any fines, or put said funds into driving education programs,..but don't simply destroy property as a punishment. It is "cruel and unusual",..what's next, demolish a room off the offender's house? I just don't get it. Jason
From: Clocky on 17 Jun 2010 19:28 Jason James wrote: > In the UK you can have your car crushed for being DUI and/or driving > an unroadworthy vehicle, plus driving uninsured can get your car > crushed. > This draconian punishment is spreading, to places like New Zealand. > Must say I'm surprised that car-crushing is used in the UK. Imean > England is where our Democratic system of government and law eminated > from! > I fail to see how destroying property is representative of a > democratic society. Confiscate, sure,...then sell it at auction and > use the funds recovered to pay off any fines, or put said funds into > driving education programs,..but don't simply destroy property as a > punishment. It is "cruel and unusual",..what's next, demolish a room > off the offender's house? I just don't get it. > > Jason When they start crushing them with the offenders still in them you'll know we are on the right track... ;-)
From: John_H on 18 Jun 2010 02:34 Jason James wrote: >In the UK you can have your car crushed for being DUI and/or driving an >unroadworthy vehicle, plus driving uninsured can get your car crushed. > >This draconian punishment is spreading, to places like New Zealand. Must say >I'm surprised that car-crushing is used in the UK. Imean England is where >our Democratic system of government and law eminated from! The Wesminster system is totally fucked... here, there and everywhere else. Totally inept governments everywhere you look and the alternatives are even worse (and they all think Laura Norda wins 'em votes)! Might be worth looking at what Charles Mollison (Foundation for National Renewal) has to say before he drops off his perch. Eliminate party politics and get rid of the state GovCo's just for starters. :) http://www.national-renewal.org.au/ -- John H
From: PhilD on 18 Jun 2010 04:25 "John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message news:4q2m16ta43g1p9jvudjikrka4v20iqmd10(a)4ax.com... > Jason James wrote: > >>In the UK you can have your car crushed for being DUI and/or driving an >>unroadworthy vehicle, plus driving uninsured can get your car crushed. >> >>This draconian punishment is spreading, to places like New Zealand. Must >>say >>I'm surprised that car-crushing is used in the UK. Imean England is where >>our Democratic system of government and law eminated from! > > The Wesminster system is totally fucked... here, there and everywhere > else. Totally inept governments everywhere you look and the > alternatives are even worse (and they all think Laura Norda wins 'em > votes)! > > Might be worth looking at what Charles Mollison (Foundation for > National Renewal) has to say before he drops off his perch. Eliminate > party politics and get rid of the state GovCo's just for starters. :) > Get rid of State Gov's? I only arrived in the NT at the tail end of Canberra rule but from that I'd never get rid of what we now have for all it's failings. As Councils up this way have far more limited roles that those elsewhere I'd rather get rid of them. Maybe it's just because of our small population but pollies up this way seem far more active publicly and on a few occasions they have responded to what we want. That would be unlikely with someone a few thousand Km's away. For all the complaints about the 130kph limit imposed on the NT's highways, Canberra would have just legislated southern limits. When we were directly under Canberra we would rarely see or hear from the pollies and their minions for many months but come the dry season they would flock here like migrating geese. Come the wet they would flock off again. One of their worst examples of complete lack of intelligence was to decide that they had a perfectly good hospital design in Canberra and decided to save on design and just impose that design on us. That's how Royal Darwin Hospital has snow shields over the windows. The story at the time was that the design was also on a small hill so they had to landscape in one here to build it on. PhilD
From: D Walford on 18 Jun 2010 04:44
On 18/06/2010 8:25 AM, Jason James wrote: > In the UK you can have your car crushed for being DUI and/or driving an > unroadworthy vehicle, plus driving uninsured can get your car crushed. > > This draconian punishment is spreading, to places like New Zealand. Must say > I'm surprised that car-crushing is used in the UK. Imean England is where > our Democratic system of government and law eminated from! > > I fail to see how destroying property is representative of a democratic > society. Confiscate, sure,...then sell it at auction and use the funds > recovered to pay off any fines, or put said funds into driving education > programs,..but don't simply destroy property as a punishment. It is "cruel > and unusual",..what's next, demolish a room off the offender's house? I just > don't get it. Agree, crushing cars unless they are old rust buckets or Mazda's make no sense at all:-) Daryl |