Webber sticks it up the Nanny State
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From: Neil Gerace on 29 Mar 2010 18:54 D Walford wrote: > Do you watch ACA? > You seem to be one of their target audience who accepts what they say as > truth without thinking, as usual the story was blown out of all > proportion by the media and the gullible like you soak up their every word. You missed the point. A law, even a stupid one, should apply to all until it's changed. If anyone else would've been punished under the hoon laws for doing what he did, then he should be punished too.
From: D Walford on 29 Mar 2010 19:11 On 30/03/2010 9:54 AM, Neil Gerace wrote: > D Walford wrote: > >> Do you watch ACA? >> You seem to be one of their target audience who accepts what they say >> as truth without thinking, as usual the story was blown out of all >> proportion by the media and the gullible like you soak up their every >> word. > > You missed the point. A law, even a stupid one, should apply to all > until it's changed. If anyone else would've been punished under the hoon > laws for doing what he did, then he should be punished too. That is true but what I'm saying is the law is wrong and its also wrongly applied especially in this case. Police do have discretion with "hoon" legislation, my son was given a warning when he got his AE86 a bit sideways going around a roundabout but it appears that in the Hamilton case the cop was out to make a name for himself. I don't have an issue with the law if there is danger to people or property but that clearly wasn't the case with Hamilton. Daryl
From: D Walford on 29 Mar 2010 19:20 On 30/03/2010 9:51 AM, Neil Gerace wrote: > D Walford wrote: > >> You completely missed the point which is that Australia is becoming >> nanny land where every aspect of our lives is over regulated to the >> point where its very oppressive. > > There were two points: > > 1) we have too many laws > 2) celebrities should cop the same punishments as the rest of us That's true and I don't dispute that but IMO no one should be penalised for doing what he did, it wasn't a danger to anyone or anything. > >> Calling one of the best drivers on the planet a "yob" is ridiculous. > > It sounds like he wasn't a very good driver at that moment, though. Spinning the wheels and accelerating quickly makes him a bad driver? If he is a bad driver its because he wasn't aware he was being observed by the Gestapo. Next all MB cars will be recalled because their traction control is so faulty that it allows wheel spin. Daryl
From: Clocky on 29 Mar 2010 19:53 D Walford wrote: > On 30/03/2010 9:51 AM, Neil Gerace wrote: >> D Walford wrote: >> >>> You completely missed the point which is that Australia is becoming >>> nanny land where every aspect of our lives is over regulated to the >>> point where its very oppressive. >> >> There were two points: >> >> 1) we have too many laws >> 2) celebrities should cop the same punishments as the rest of us > > That's true and I don't dispute that but IMO no one should be > penalised for doing what he did, it wasn't a danger to anyone or > anything. ....and that is completely irrelevant, the law is the law and we have anti-hooning laws because people do no longer respect residents or other road users. He broke the law and got done, as he should have and that should be the end of the story. >> >>> Calling one of the best drivers on the planet a "yob" is ridiculous. >> >> It sounds like he wasn't a very good driver at that moment, though. > > Spinning the wheels and accelerating quickly makes him a bad driver? > If he is a bad driver its because he wasn't aware he was being > observed by the Gestapo. No, he's a bad driver because he's a public figure, supposedly a road safety advocate and influential to young drivers and he should have taken all that into consideration and used better judgement.
From: Doug Jewell on 30 Mar 2010 00:04
Neil Gerace wrote: > D Walford wrote: > >> Do you watch ACA? >> You seem to be one of their target audience who accepts what they say >> as truth without thinking, as usual the story was blown out of all >> proportion by the media and the gullible like you soak up their every >> word. > > You missed the point. A law, even a stupid one, should apply to all > until it's changed. If anyone else would've been punished under the hoon > laws for doing what he did, then he should be punished too. But isn't the point of webber's comments that we are in a nanny state, with lots of stupid laws governing everyhting you can and can't do. A bit of wheel-spin, lose your car. Break the speed limit by 3km/hr, get fined. Park on the wrong side of the street, get fined. Cut a tree down on your own property, get fined. Don't put a certain sized water tank on your new house, get fined. Can't import light bulb's - try and they'll get confiscated and you'll get fined. Put a radar detector in your car, you'll get fined. Kill a brown snake, you'll get fined. Carry a gun in your car in case you hit a roo, you'll get fined. I could go on, but I've got to go back to work. -- What is the difference between a duck? |