Webber sticks it up the Nanny State
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From: Noddy on 30 Mar 2010 07:37 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4bb1dcaa$0$27814$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > I've never made that argument, my problem is with the law itself, I have > no problem with it being applied equally. No offence, but until Hamilton (what that who it was?) was pinched I can't recall you being very anti about it. > I very much doubt it, most "hoon" case that are reported in the news are > for exceeding the speed limit by a big margin, you can't seriously compare > a bit of wheel spin when driving away from a set of lights to doing 120 in > a 60 zone. Every kid who has been busted for a "burnout" is in exactly the same boat. As far as the law is concerned, you're either doing a burnout or you're not, and you don't get browny points for the amount of smoke you make. > Only if he knew that he could get pinged for doing what he did and seeing > as how this is probably the only place on the planet where it could happen > its seems unlikely. > If his team comes out and says he was warned about our stupid rules then > he is an idiot. He's an idiot for doing it on a public road full stop. Warned or not. If he can't tell where the track ends and the street begins then maybe he should give some consideration to a different career. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 30 Mar 2010 07:40 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4bb1ddc1$0$27880$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > AFAIK there is no on the spot fine for "hoon" offences so even if it was > minor it still has to go to court. He copped a 500 odd buck on the spot fine apparently, and will be summonsed to appear in a few months to face other charges. I doubt if he'll appear himself as he's likely to be half a world away "on business", but he's got more fines to come and possibly a disqualification from driving in Victoria for a while (which I'm sure won't bother him). -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 30 Mar 2010 07:50 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4bb1dfdb$0$8766$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Do the Poms have such laws? What countries do you know of that allow fuckwit behaviour on a public street? > If Pommy laws on such things are the same as ours and he knew it was a big > deal than I would agree but most sane people wouldn't think spinning a > cars wheels warranted such a furore. The only "furore" surrounding this event is that he happened to be famous and brought a lot of negative publicity onto himself. He was showing off in front of a bunch of fans and decided to cut loose with the car, and obviously wasn't aware that coppers where there to witness it. How you can claim what he was doing wasn't dangerous when the street was lined with cars and the footpath with people is also a mystery. Had the car got out of shape unexpectedly for any reason there would have been consequences. > Hands up those here who have never span a cars wheels, I bet I don't see a > lot of hands, I know mine won't be up especially since even a diesel ute > can spin its wheels without even trying. How that makes what Hamilton did any less stupid is beyond me. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 30 Mar 2010 07:54 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4bb1e0f7$0$27792$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Yep but once he found out who he was all hell broke loose Go watch the video's :) The cops pulled him over, informed him that his car was going to be impounded under the hoon laws like anyone elses, and towed it away. That's *precisely* what they would have done (and *have* done) for anyone else in similar circumstances regardless of their celebrity status. The only hell braking loose was the media having a field day with an F1 driver acting irresponsibly which, in my opinion, he thoroughly deserved. > Not at all but even the worst F1 driver in history actually has a clue > about how to control a car, "louts" doing burnouts usually don't. I'd argue that if he *really* had a clue then he wouldn't have been doing what he did within close proximity of other vehicles and pedestrians. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: D Walford on 30 Mar 2010 08:32
On 30/03/2010 10:37 PM, Noddy wrote: > "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message > news:4bb1dcaa$0$27814$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > >> I've never made that argument, my problem is with the law itself, I have >> no problem with it being applied equally. > > No offence, but until Hamilton (what that who it was?) was pinched I can't > recall you being very anti about it. Webbers nanny state comments is what got me started, its not just driving where we are subjected to nanny laws, its creeping into everything we do. Internet censorship is another prime example of a Govt gone mad. > >> I very much doubt it, most "hoon" case that are reported in the news are >> for exceeding the speed limit by a big margin, you can't seriously compare >> a bit of wheel spin when driving away from a set of lights to doing 120 in >> a 60 zone. > > Every kid who has been busted for a "burnout" is in exactly the same boat. > As far as the law is concerned, you're either doing a burnout or you're not, > and you don't get browny points for the amount of smoke you make. Doing a burnout is not the same as a bit of wheel spin taking off from a set of lights. > >> Only if he knew that he could get pinged for doing what he did and seeing >> as how this is probably the only place on the planet where it could happen >> its seems unlikely. >> If his team comes out and says he was warned about our stupid rules then >> he is an idiot. > > He's an idiot for doing it on a public road full stop. Warned or not. If he > can't tell where the track ends and the street begins then maybe he should > give some consideration to a different career. That is true to a point but believe it or there are places on this planet where spinning your cars wheels aren't considered to be such a big deal. Daryl |