Webber sticks it up the Nanny State
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From: Clocky on 30 Mar 2010 12:20 D Walford wrote: > On 30/03/2010 10:54 PM, Noddy wrote: >> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message >> news:4bb1e0f7$0$27792$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >>> Yep but once he found out who he was all hell broke loose >> >> Go watch the video's :) > > What videos? > >> >> The cops pulled him over, informed him that his car was going to be >> impounded under the hoon laws like anyone elses, and towed it away. >> That's *precisely* what they would have done (and *have* done) for >> anyone else in similar circumstances regardless of their celebrity >> status. > > Not correct, my son was stopped for getting his car sideways around a > roundabout, he was let off with a warning. >> He should have been booked. >> The only hell braking loose was the media having a field day with an >> F1 driver acting irresponsibly which, in my opinion, he thoroughly >> deserved. >>> Not at all but even the worst F1 driver in history actually has a >>> clue about how to control a car, "louts" doing burnouts usually >>> don't. >> >> I'd argue that if he *really* had a clue then he wouldn't have been >> doing what he did within close proximity of other vehicles and >> pedestrians. > > > What makes you think there was anyone near where it happened? > That road is normally very quiet after hours with sfa traffic and even > less pedestrians. > Which is completely irrelevant.
From: Clocky on 30 Mar 2010 12:23 D Walford wrote: > On 30/03/2010 9:34 PM, Neil Gerace wrote: >> Doug Jewell wrote: >> >>> But isn't the point of webber's comments that we are in a nanny >>> state, with lots of stupid laws governing everyhting you can and >>> can't do. >> >> Yes, they are stupid laws. But stupid laws should apply to famous >> people the same as the rest of us. > > Correct but in this case it seems they were applied more harshly > simply because he was famous. Nonsense, they had no idea who he was unil after he was pulled over and got done. The media made a big deal out of it but the cops were just doing their job.
From: Clocky on 30 Mar 2010 12:38 Athol wrote: > The Raven <swilson150(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > >> I appreciate Ken Lays position that F1 drivers should set an example >> but for FFS, one burnout by a F1 driver hardly constitutes "hooning". > > When they do it in an F1 car, on the race track, the video footage is > used in TV ads. When the same driver does far less in a road vehicle, > the car is impounded. Something just doesn't add up. You have trouble telling the difference between a race car on a race track and a hoon on a public road?
From: Clocky on 30 Mar 2010 12:48 Neil Gerace wrote: > D Walford wrote: > >> Of course he could have prevented it if he had wanted to but he >> probably wasn't familiar with Vic law which makes wheel spin a >> hanging offence, it still doesn't make him a bad driver. > > Not having the presence of mind to stop himself from doing what he > did - that's what makes him a bad driver. Bingo.
From: Clocky on 30 Mar 2010 12:57
D Walford wrote: > On 30/03/2010 10:37 PM, Noddy wrote: >> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message >> news:4bb1dcaa$0$27814$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >>> I've never made that argument, my problem is with the law itself, I >>> have no problem with it being applied equally. >> >> No offence, but until Hamilton (what that who it was?) was pinched I >> can't recall you being very anti about it. > > Webbers nanny state comments is what got me started, its not just > driving where we are subjected to nanny laws, its creeping into > everything we do. > Internet censorship is another prime example of a Govt gone mad. >> >>> I very much doubt it, most "hoon" case that are reported in the >>> news are for exceeding the speed limit by a big margin, you can't >>> seriously compare a bit of wheel spin when driving away from a set >>> of lights to doing 120 in a 60 zone. >> >> Every kid who has been busted for a "burnout" is in exactly the same >> boat. As far as the law is concerned, you're either doing a burnout >> or you're not, and you don't get browny points for the amount of >> smoke you make. > > Doing a burnout is not the same as a bit of wheel spin taking off > from a set of lights. >> >>> Only if he knew that he could get pinged for doing what he did and >>> seeing as how this is probably the only place on the planet where >>> it could happen its seems unlikely. >>> If his team comes out and says he was warned about our stupid rules >>> then he is an idiot. >> >> He's an idiot for doing it on a public road full stop. Warned or >> not. If he can't tell where the track ends and the street begins >> then maybe he should give some consideration to a different career. > > That is true to a point but believe it or there are places on this > planet where spinning your cars wheels aren't considered to be such a > big deal. > I can't think of any country that wouldn't have problems with people spinning their wheels and doing a snakeyup the road (aka a burnout FYI) alongside pedestrians. The fact that you defend this sort of behaviour as well as bad behaviour by truckies is a bit of a worry, to be honest. |