From: Clocky on
D Walford wrote:
> On 31/03/2010 3:57 AM, Clocky wrote:
>> D Walford wrote:
>>> On 30/03/2010 10:37 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>>> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4bb1dcaa$0$27814$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I've never made that argument, my problem is with the law itself,
>>>>> I have no problem with it being applied equally.
>>>>
>>>> No offence, but until Hamilton (what that who it was?) was pinched
>>>> I can't recall you being very anti about it.
>>>
>>> Webbers nanny state comments is what got me started, its not just
>>> driving where we are subjected to nanny laws, its creeping into
>>> everything we do.
>>> Internet censorship is another prime example of a Govt gone mad.
>>>>
>>>>> I very much doubt it, most "hoon" case that are reported in the
>>>>> news are for exceeding the speed limit by a big margin, you can't
>>>>> seriously compare a bit of wheel spin when driving away from a set
>>>>> of lights to doing 120 in a 60 zone.
>>>>
>>>> Every kid who has been busted for a "burnout" is in exactly the
>>>> same boat. As far as the law is concerned, you're either doing a
>>>> burnout or you're not, and you don't get browny points for the
>>>> amount of smoke you make.
>>>
>>> Doing a burnout is not the same as a bit of wheel spin taking off
>>> from a set of lights.
>>>>
>>>>> Only if he knew that he could get pinged for doing what he did and
>>>>> seeing as how this is probably the only place on the planet where
>>>>> it could happen its seems unlikely.
>>>>> If his team comes out and says he was warned about our stupid
>>>>> rules then he is an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> He's an idiot for doing it on a public road full stop. Warned or
>>>> not. If he can't tell where the track ends and the street begins
>>>> then maybe he should give some consideration to a different career.
>>>
>>> That is true to a point but believe it or there are places on this
>>> planet where spinning your cars wheels aren't considered to be such
>>> a big deal.
>>>
>>
>> I can't think of any country that wouldn't have problems with people
>> spinning their wheels and doing a snakeyup the road (aka a burnout
>> FYI) alongside pedestrians.
>>
>
> How do you know there were pedestrians present?
>

In one report I read his manager said as much. It's not the first time he's
been done either, he was clocked doing 60km/h over the speed limit a few
years back and lost his license, so clearly he's an idiot and a slow
learner.

>> The fact that you defend this sort of behaviour as well as bad
>> behaviour by truckies is a bit of a worry, to be honest.
>
> I don't "defend" either but I do object when you make wild claims that
> every truckie is dangerous driver when the vast majority aren't.
>

I never claimed that every truckie is dangerous, I said that idiots are
overrepresented in the transport industry and that is a worry when they are
in control of a lethal weapon.









From: Noddy on

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Doing a burnout is not the same as a bit of wheel spin taking off from a
> set of lights.

It depends on who's qualifying the "burnout" statement.

A burnout to *me* is rolling through water and laying about 150 feet of
rubber on the ground for traction, but then that's not everyone's idea.

> That is true to a point but believe it or there are places on this planet
> where spinning your cars wheels aren't considered to be such a big deal.

Yeah, like race tracks where there is plenty of safety equipment and staff
between the car and the spectators.

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Noddy.


From: Noddy on

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> How do you know there were pedestrians present?

It was reported in the media.

Hamilton was driving the car out of the track area and a group of race fans
were standing beside the road in this area waiting for the drivers to leave
the track. He was apparently egged on by the spectators, and decided to
amuse them.

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Noddy.


From: Noddy on

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> What videos?

There's a couple of youtube videos of where he was pinched. It's hardly an
area free of traffic and people.

> Not correct, my son was stopped for getting his car sideways around a
> roundabout, he was let off with a warning.

Lucky him.

> What makes you think there was anyone near where it happened?

Read the press reports of the event, or watch the videos.

> That road is normally very quiet after hours with sfa traffic and even
> less pedestrians.

Usually, unless you're talking about race week-end :)

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From: Noddy on

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Absolutely.

Incredible.

I'd bet London to a brick that the coppers had no idea who was driving the
car when they ordered it to stop, and the driver was going down before they
found out who it was.

> See my reply about my son getting off with a warning.

We've all been there, but that doesn't mean much.

> Which brings up the question of how the media "was all over it".

There was camera's at the booking scene.

> We agree on that point, once they found out they had to be seen to be
> doing something:-)

Yeah, right.

I think the problem would have been one of *having* to do something but
being embarrassed about it anyway :)

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Noddy.