From: D Walford on
On 1/04/2010 10:18 PM, Scotty wrote:
> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:4bb46f76$0$27851$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> : On 1/04/2010 2:41 PM, PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
> :>
> http://www.news.com.au/business/export-crash-leads-to-big-holden-loss/story-e6frfm1i-1225848310901
> :>
> :> Maybe the worst is behind?, but the Dunnydore sales are going down and
> :> down each& every year, won't stop sinking either, the glory big-
> :> volume days [thanks stupid tariffs protection] are over.
> :
> : More to do with people deciding that they no longer need large cars
> : since the price of petrol has gone up so much.
> : If both Holden and Ford had done a lot more to convince people of the
> : advantages of LPG big car sales may not have declined so much.
> :>
> :> Once the Dunnydore dies all we have from the LionKing brand are Korean
> :> junkboxes as per now, *maybe* US GovCo owned GM should just get out of
> :> the car industry all together?
> :>
> :> Just wish K.Dudd would stop giving them 100's million$ of our taxes,
> :> why should the auto industry keep getting HUGE hand outs of our money?
> :>
> :
> : Would you rather the money went to unemployment benefits for the 10's of
> : thousands of people who would loose their jobs if the industry fails?
> : There is also the other benefit of maintaining some of the Australia's
> : self sufficiency by having some sort of large scale manufacturing
> : facilities.
> :
> :
> :
> : Daryl
>
> Why not let Jap imports into the country, that would boost all sorts of new industry.
>
>
>
It would affect the current Jap imports (every Jap car except Camry) as
much or more than the local industry.
There is enough junk of the roads already without dumping thousands of
Japanese rejects here.
Even if local vehicle manufacturing stopped imports would still be
subject to ADR's so cars could only be imported if someone was willing
to spend big money for each model to be fully complianced.


Daryl

From: Clocky on
Noddy wrote:
> " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4bb48120$0$5621$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>> Why not let Jap imports into the country, that would boost all sorts
>> of new industry.
>
> What, sub woofer shops?
>
> New Zealand went crazy with grey imports, and in a relatively short
> time what was left of it's car industry was royally fucked because of
> it.

They were legally brought into WA for a while and it soon turned into a
disaster when it became apparent that all the imported stuff was simply junk
and whilst it drove the price of used cars down it also flooded the market
with utter shite.

I had a friend who bought a Honda Accord (called something else I think but
the same vehicle sold here as the Accord) with 50,000km on the clock and it
looked like new. Forward two years later and the rust in the thing was
astounding, the bubbles formed under the paint and chunks of rust fell out
leaving gaping holes. He lost his boot lid whilst driving when the skin
seperated from the rest of the structure.
My sister bought a Toyota Sprinter, also a Jap import and the same thing
happened - it literally fell apart around her and when she dropped a CV it
was impossible to find one as it didn't match up to any of the Australian
models. I ended up making something work from a Camira of all things.









From: atec7 7 ""atec77 " on
Scotty wrote:
> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:4bb46f76$0$27851$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> : On 1/04/2010 2:41 PM, PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
> : >
>
> :
> :
> : Daryl
>
> Why not let Jap imports into the country, that would boost all sorts of new industry.
>
>
>
I would like to see you explain how ?
From: OzOne on

You people have no idea!

Of course they made a loss...they've spent zillions on developing a
totally new model range, and introduced the new SIDI engine.

They'll be writing off that cost for years.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: bugalugs on
On 2/04/2010 3:12 a.m., Clocky wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> " Scotty"<scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4bb48120$0$5621$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>> Why not let Jap imports into the country, that would boost all sorts
>>> of new industry.
>>
>> What, sub woofer shops?
>>
>> New Zealand went crazy with grey imports, and in a relatively short
>> time what was left of it's car industry was royally fucked because of
>> it.
>
> They were legally brought into WA for a while and it soon turned into a
> disaster when it became apparent that all the imported stuff was simply junk
> and whilst it drove the price of used cars down it also flooded the market
> with utter shite.
>
> I had a friend who bought a Honda Accord (called something else I think but
> the same vehicle sold here as the Accord) with 50,000km on the clock and it
> looked like new. Forward two years later and the rust in the thing was
> astounding, the bubbles formed under the paint and chunks of rust fell out
> leaving gaping holes. He lost his boot lid whilst driving when the skin
> seperated from the rest of the structure.
> My sister bought a Toyota Sprinter, also a Jap import and the same thing
> happened - it literally fell apart around her and when she dropped a CV it
> was impossible to find one as it didn't match up to any of the Australian
> models. I ended up making something work from a Camira of all things.
>
>
>
>
Sounds like they parked them below the high tide mark for them to rust
and fall apart like that.

I had a JDM Prelude, 4 wheel steer, straight off the boat from Japan not
a mark on it, until the wife shortened it. Replaced it with a JDM 90
Subaru GT wagon and 8 years later, only expense was replacing the R rear
window winder mechanism and the rear shocks because of overloading. No
sign of rust anywhere. (got SFA for it even though it was in excellent
condition)

For the last 4 years I have had a (second hand but NZ new) 02 Subaru GT
Bilstein, twin turbo wagon (and a radar detector). Again no mechanical
problems and no sign of rust anywhere. And I live less than 5K from the
harbour.

Parts are not a problem as the local stealership sell almost the same
models and Subaru is the most popular brand imported.

Toyota now work on the principal of 'if you can't beat, em join em' and
as well as new vehicles bring in second hand JDM models. They refurbish
them at their Thames plant (empty the ash trays and spray around a lot
of air freshener) and sell them from their dealers as their Signature range.

As a consumer it aint all bad.