From: Scotty on 2 Apr 2010 00:02
"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message news:4bb55280$0$33489$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net...
: " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message
: > I see what your trying to get at here, I really do.
: > The thing is with the Jap imports into NZ is that around 10-15 years ago
: > when the imports were
: > allowed into NZ theow end finance companies actually bought ship loads of
: > cars, sold them off at
: > quite good prices through 3rd party yards. Where they made all thier money
: > is the finance side of
: > things. Of course only the lower economic demigraphic people bought like
: > this and as they ended up
: > paying so much in car payments they simply couldnt afford to service them.
: > The comment of "going
: > from 30 yr old cars to 5yr old ones" is very true. Of course a 30 yr old
: > Holden could withstand not
: > being services as much as a 5yr old Japanese unit and thier now 10 year
: > old import failed
: > prematurely due to lack of servicing and maintanance.
: So, you're saying that every relatively new car that dies in NZ does so
: through lack of maintenance?
Not at all, a huge majority within low economic areas would though.
: > To confirm this all you need to do is go to the wreckers in those areas
: > and see whats in the "newly
: > aquired" piles.
: There's plenty of wrecking yards in NZ full of late model cars, and a great
: many of them aren't accident damaged. They presumably end up there because
: they're work out (for whatever reason) and it's cheaper to buy a replacement
: than it is to repair the old one. Car yards in NX are *full* of current and
: very late model grey imports, and even though the NZ government has
: tightened the rules with regard to imports it's very much a case of shuting
: the gate after the horse has bolted.
: > I beleive that Australia could do with some form of import market, its
: > done wonders in NZ, Ireland,
: > England etc.
: It's done very little that's actually *positive* for New Zealand.
: > In fact after NZ had had a few years of imports Ireland saw how good it
: > was and they
: > became the larest importers on Japanese 2nd hands cars in the world for a
: > few years. It was then
: > that the NZ market became a bit more expensive and even some of teh
: > finance companies went under
: > because of it.
: Right. and the good bit was?
No good bit in that paragraph. Apart from shonky finace companies going under.
From: D Walford on 2 Apr 2010 07:20
On 2/04/2010 12:35 PM, Clocky wrote:
> Maybe they have vastly improved in more recent years. Mechanically they have
> never really been a problem, with exception to parts availability which
> likely has improved also.
Toyota dealers will now order parts for any Toyota model even grey
imports, if the part is available ex Japan they will get it for you.
From: Premier on 2 Apr 2010 07:32
<OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
> You people have no idea!
> Of course they made a loss...they've spent zillions on developing a
> totally new model range, and introduced the new SIDI engine.
Big money for an engine that still doesnt cut it. How did they spend it all?
From: Premier on 2 Apr 2010 07:33
> What we have left today is "boutique industry". It makes a lot of noise
> and spends a lot of money making small numbers of items that sell for
> three times the price of similar things made anywhere else.
3 times????? Shoe me some examples? (and dont say the Renault Logan or that
Tata thing from India)
From: Clocky on 2 Apr 2010 11:39
D Walford wrote:
> On 2/04/2010 12:35 PM, Clocky wrote:
>> Maybe they have vastly improved in more recent years. Mechanically
>> they have never really been a problem, with exception to parts
>> availability which likely has improved also.
> Toyota dealers will now order parts for any Toyota model even grey
> imports, if the part is available ex Japan they will get it for you.
Things have changed then, the last time I went in to Toyota and asked for
parts for an import they looked at me as if I had just grown horns ;-)