From: Lookout on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:04:10 +0000 (UTC), Brent
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>>><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>>>>>numbered. My life is my own."
>>>
>>>> You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license. The government
>>>> knows everything about you.
>>>
>>>Why do you support making it worse?
>>
>> It's your opinion that it would get worse.
>
>Name a police state where your papers were checked routinely to make
>sure you were permitted to be in that country, work there, etc is one
>you would like to live in.

Irrelevant to the US.
>
>>>Seems you missed the reference, it's from "The Prisoner". Why do you
>>>wish to increase the imprisonment?
>>
>> That's your opinion. I disagree.
>
>How turning the USA into a full blown 'paper's please' police state not
>make things worse?

The good out weighs the bad in my opinion.
From: Brent on
On 2010-06-22, Brian Wraith <brianwraith(a)newzealand.invalid> wrote:
> On 6/22/2010 12:04 PM, Brent wrote:
>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>>>>>> numbered. My life is my own."
>>>>
>>>>> You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license. The government
>>>>> knows everything about you.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you support making it worse?
>>>
>>> It's your opinion that it would get worse.
>>
>> Name a police state where your papers were checked routinely to make
>> sure you were permitted to be in that country, work there, etc is one
>> you would like to live in.
>>
>>>> Seems you missed the reference, it's from "The Prisoner". Why do you
>>>> wish to increase the imprisonment?
>>>
>>> That's your opinion. I disagree.
>>
>> How turning the USA into a full blown 'paper's please' police state not
>> make things worse?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Name a single western country, where if you are stopped for suspicion of
> being involved in a crime, you are not asked to positively identify
> yourself.

What crime am I suspected of at a police checkpoint?

> The ignorant propaganda being spread by the "open border" socialist /
> marxists is simply far too transparent.

Ahh another person who can't see through the programming. It's about
power. Both the left and right love power. You want to see how national
ID papers systems work? Pick a communist country and take a look.


From: Brent on
On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:04:10 +0000 (UTC), Brent
><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>>>><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>>>>>>numbered. My life is my own."
>>>>
>>>>> You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license. The government
>>>>> knows everything about you.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you support making it worse?
>>>
>>> It's your opinion that it would get worse.
>>
>>Name a police state where your papers were checked routinely to make
>>sure you were permitted to be in that country, work there, etc is one
>>you would like to live in.
>
> Irrelevant to the US.
>>
>>>>Seems you missed the reference, it's from "The Prisoner". Why do you
>>>>wish to increase the imprisonment?
>>>
>>> That's your opinion. I disagree.
>>
>>How turning the USA into a full blown 'paper's please' police state not
>>make things worse?
>
> The good out weighs the bad in my opinion.

And that's how free people become slaves. trade offs of freedom for the
illusion of security.


From: JohnJohnsn on
On Jun 22, 2:27 pm, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:04:10 +0000 (UTC), Brent
> <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.
>
>>>>>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,
>>>>>> debriefed or numbered. My life is my own."

Actually, "I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will
not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered. My life is my own. I resign."
--Number 6

Number 2: You are Number 6.
Number 6: I am not a number, I am a free man!

Number 6: Unlike me, many of you have accepted the situation of your
imprisonment, and will die here like rotten cabbages.

Sounds like Number 6 (aka: John Drake) knows mrLookOut.

>>>>> You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license.
>>>>> The government knows everything about you.
>
>>>> Why do you support making it worse?
>
>>> It's your opinion that it would get worse.
>
>> Name a police state where your papers were checked routinely
>> to make sure you were permitted to be in that country, work there,
>> etc is one you would like to live in.
>
> Irrelevant to the US.

I thought that's what you LIEberal Socialists were complaining about
in Arizona!?!

>>>> Seems you missed the reference, it's from "The Prisoner".
>>>> Why do you wish to increase the imprisonment?
>
>>> That's your opinion. I disagree.
>
>> How turning the USA into a full blown 'paper's please' police
>> state not make things worse?
>
> The good out weighs the bad in my opinion.

Jawohl, Herr Reichsminister für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda
Ausblick!!!
From: Lookout on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:42:10 +0000 (UTC), Brent
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 2010-06-22, Brian Wraith <brianwraith(a)newzealand.invalid> wrote:
>> On 6/22/2010 12:04 PM, Brent wrote:
>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>>>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>>>>>>> numbered. My life is my own."
>>>>>
>>>>>> You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license. The government
>>>>>> knows everything about you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you support making it worse?
>>>>
>>>> It's your opinion that it would get worse.
>>>
>>> Name a police state where your papers were checked routinely to make
>>> sure you were permitted to be in that country, work there, etc is one
>>> you would like to live in.
>>>
>>>>> Seems you missed the reference, it's from "The Prisoner". Why do you
>>>>> wish to increase the imprisonment?
>>>>
>>>> That's your opinion. I disagree.
>>>
>>> How turning the USA into a full blown 'paper's please' police state not
>>> make things worse?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Name a single western country, where if you are stopped for suspicion of
>> being involved in a crime, you are not asked to positively identify
>> yourself.
>
>What crime am I suspected of at a police checkpoint?
>
>> The ignorant propaganda being spread by the "open border" socialist /
>> marxists is simply far too transparent.
>
>Ahh another person who can't see through the programming. It's about
>power. Both the left and right love power. You want to see how national
>ID papers systems work? Pick a communist country and take a look.
>
Last time I checked we're not a communist country.