From: Ray Fischer on
Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2ee82d$0$1648
>$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net:
>
>> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Zombywoof <fishwings(a)live.com> wrote in
>>>news:57lp261sam4gt7ov7q7ac4l81t4k52f8ef(a)4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 01 Jul 2010 06:32:06 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Zombywoof <fishwings(a)live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>>Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2ac0b9$0$1592
>>>>>>>>> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2a2fea$0$1655
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another fascist threatening political pogroms.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Only against the enemies of Liberty.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Kill the people who don't do as we say because it is THEY
>>>>>>>>> who hate liberty!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The "liberty" to obey you goose-stepping fascists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Again, I have commeted that I find facists distasteful and wish them
>>>>>>>>dead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Which makes you a fascist because you hate liberty. You don't want to
>>>>>>>allow people the freedom to disagree with you. You'd rather kill
>>>>>>>them, just like a fascist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>You seem to forget that there was a period of time where almost our
>>>>>>entire country was dedicated to killing every Fascist we could find.
>>>>>
>>>>>You seem to think that your stupid bullshit will justify murder.
>>>>>
>>>> The murder of who, enemies of MY country? No, personally I don't see
>>>> any reason or need to justify that. It simple is what it is.
>>>
>>>The military does it all the time.
>>
>> Exterminate people for having the wrong politics?
>>
>> No, that's a lie. The US military does NOT do that "all the time".
>
>Do you think the Nazis had the right politics?

The US military did not attack the nazis for their politcs, dumbass.
They attacked the nazis for invading other countries and killing
people.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: Ray Fischer on
Zombywoof <fishwings(a)live.com> wrote:
>Now what does the U.S. Military do? Well in sanitized terms, they
>inflict causalities, usually at a greater rate then they receive in
>order to get an enemy to capitulate.
>
>So now the question would be; "Do they do that because "people" have
>the wrong Politics"?

No.

> Seeing as how the use of Military Force is the
>end-result of failed diplomacy and the Military doesn't get to decide
>who they do & do not inflict casualties upon -- the most correct
>statement on this matter would be -- Our elected leaders order the
>deaths of other people over their political beliefs -- and yes they do
>it all the time.

No, the military wages wars because of the ACTIONS of other people.
Not for their claimed political beliefs.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer(a)sonic.net

From: JohnJohnsn on
On Jul 3, 9:06 am, Zombywoof <fishwi...(a)live.com> wrote:

> Now what does the U.S. Military do?  Well in sanitized terms,
> they inflict causalities, usually at a greater rate then they receive
> in order to get an enemy to capitulate.  

In "unsanitized" terms, the military's role is to "Kill People and
Break Things" (and for the Marine Corps it's "When It Absolutely And
Positively Has To Be Destroyed Overnight!").
From: Gray Ghost on
rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2f8492$0$1661
$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net:

> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2ee738$0$1648
>>> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I beleive that you consider
>>>>yourself a potential target and you should consider why.
>>>
>>> You're a murderous fascist who wants to kill people who don't confirm
>>> to your right-wing ideology.
>>
>>Sure Ray, whatever you say.
>
> It is what YOU say.
>
>> Why don't you notify the FBI.
>
> They probably know already.
>
>> I'm getting tired
>>pof explaining things
>
> You say you want to kill people for having the wrong political ideals.
> Everything else is self-serving rationalization.
>

No, Ray, that is your twisted, warped, lieing interpetation of what I said.

Wassamatta, do i make you nervous? Got a guilty conscience?

--
"Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be
construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be
sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything
or nothing at pleasure."

�Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 1823
From: Gray Ghost on
rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4c2f8514$0$1661$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net:

> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2ee82d$0$1648
>>$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net:
>>
>>> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>Zombywoof <fishwings(a)live.com> wrote in
>>>>news:57lp261sam4gt7ov7q7ac4l81t4k52f8ef(a)4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01 Jul 2010 06:32:06 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Zombywoof <fishwings(a)live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>>>Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2ac0b9$0$1592
>>>>>>>>>> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c2a2fea$0$1655
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another fascist threatening political pogroms.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Only against the enemies of Liberty.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Kill the people who don't do as we say because it is THEY
>>>>>>>>>> who hate liberty!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The "liberty" to obey you goose-stepping fascists.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Again, I have commeted that I find facists distasteful and wish
>>>>>>>>>them dead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Which makes you a fascist because you hate liberty. You don't want
>>>>>>>>to allow people the freedom to disagree with you. You'd rather
>>>>>>>>kill them, just like a fascist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You seem to forget that there was a period of time where almost our
>>>>>>>entire country was dedicated to killing every Fascist we could find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You seem to think that your stupid bullshit will justify murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The murder of who, enemies of MY country? No, personally I don't see
>>>>> any reason or need to justify that. It simple is what it is.
>>>>
>>>>The military does it all the time.
>>>
>>> Exterminate people for having the wrong politics?
>>>
>>> No, that's a lie. The US military does NOT do that "all the time".
>>
>>Do you think the Nazis had the right politics?
>
> The US military did not attack the nazis for their politcs, dumbass.
> They attacked the nazis for invading other countries and killing
> people.
>

Really, and how did we enter the war with Germany? What was the salient legal
event?

--
"Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be
construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be
sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything
or nothing at pleasure."

�Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 1823