From: Lookout on 22 Jun 2010 22:13 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:01:57 -0400, Zombywoof <fishwings(a)live.com> wrote: >On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:11:39 -0500, "RM v2.0" <Blah(a)spamsux.com> >wrote: > >> >>"Brent" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:hvqoov$8gp$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years. >>> >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>> numbered. My life is my own." >>> >>Unfortunately we already are. I have a Drivers License, TWIC card (port >>access), airport all access badge, CHL (concealed pistol permit), SSN, so >>what is another card? Maybe with a National ID I could just carry one card >>instead of 5? >> >Actually that is the way I look at it, if they were actually going to >do it that way -- they aren't. If the government wanted to know anything about you they'd go to the credit bureaus.
From: Brent on 22 Jun 2010 22:14 On 2010-06-23, Zombywoof <fishwings(a)live.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, I think the only way to begin reversing this trend is > to start asking for papers. Once the country is cleansed and > effective controls are put in place to stop every Jose, Miguel, or > Abdul from diddlely bopping around inside our borders perhaps we can > go back to the way it was, but I doubt it. I can count on one hand the number of items representing power the US government has given up and most of them are trivial*. Once you allow it, it's there forever. *NMSL, owning gold, making your beer/wine, um that's about it.
From: Alan Baker on 23 Jun 2010 03:58 In article <hvr1ti$rcv$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Brian Wraith <brianwraith(a)newzealand.invalid> wrote: > On 6/22/2010 12:04 PM, Brent wrote: > > On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Brent > >> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent > >>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years. > >>>>> > >>>>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > >>>>> numbered. My life is my own." > >>> > >>>> You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license. The government > >>>> knows everything about you. > >>> > >>> Why do you support making it worse? > >> > >> It's your opinion that it would get worse. > > > > Name a police state where your papers were checked routinely to make > > sure you were permitted to be in that country, work there, etc is one > > you would like to live in. > > > >>> Seems you missed the reference, it's from "The Prisoner". Why do you > >>> wish to increase the imprisonment? > >> > >> That's your opinion. I disagree. > > > > How turning the USA into a full blown 'paper's please' police state not > > make things worse? > > > > > > > > Name a single western country, where if you are stopped for suspicion of > being involved in a crime, you are not asked to positively identify > yourself. This one: Canada. If I am stopped, I am under no obligation to carry any identification of any kind. > > The ignorant propaganda being spread by the "open border" socialist / > marxists is simply far too transparent. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Frank J Warner on 23 Jun 2010 07:59 In article <e74e8d22-5a34-4358-b242-41b15f7556cd(a)x27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, brad herschel <bradherschel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 22, 9:11�am, mg <mgkel...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Two questions: > > > > 1. Should voters be required to produce a photo ID before casting a > > ballot? > > Yes How are you going to do that with mail-in ballots? -Frank -- Here's some of my work: http://www.sharpbywarner.com
From: Brian Wraith on 23 Jun 2010 08:55
On 6/23/2010 12:58 AM, Alan Baker wrote: > In article<hvr1ti$rcv$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Brian Wraith<brianwraith(a)newzealand.invalid> wrote: > >> On 6/22/2010 12:04 PM, Brent wrote: >>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC), Brent >>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent >>>>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2010-06-22, Lookout<mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>>>>>> numbered. My life is my own." >>>>> >>>>>> You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license. The government >>>>>> knows everything about you. >>>>> >>>>> Why do you support making it worse? >>>> >>>> It's your opinion that it would get worse. >>> >>> Name a police state where your papers were checked routinely to make >>> sure you were permitted to be in that country, work there, etc is one >>> you would like to live in. >>> >>>>> Seems you missed the reference, it's from "The Prisoner". Why do you >>>>> wish to increase the imprisonment? >>>> >>>> That's your opinion. I disagree. >>> >>> How turning the USA into a full blown 'paper's please' police state not >>> make things worse? >>> >>> >>> >> >> Name a single western country, where if you are stopped for suspicion of >> being involved in a crime, you are not asked to positively identify >> yourself. > > This one: Canada. > > If I am stopped, I am under no obligation to carry any identification of > any kind. But the police in Canada have the right to detain you long enough to identify you. > >> >> The ignorant propaganda being spread by the "open border" socialist / >> marxists is simply far too transparent. > |