From: brad herschel on
On Jun 22, 9:11 am, mg <mgkel...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Two questions:
>
> 1. Should voters be required to produce a photo ID before casting a
> ballot?

Yes
>
> 2. Should job applicants be required to produce a photo ID before
> getting a job?

Yes

Some years ago I would have been opposed to a National ID. But the
illegal alien situation has reached the
point where every measure must be taken to remove them from the job
market and America.

brad

From: Lookout on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:00:49 -0700 (PDT), brad herschel
<bradherschel(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 22, 9:11�am, mg <mgkel...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Two questions:
>>
>> 1. Should voters be required to produce a photo ID before casting a
>> ballot?
>
>Yes
>>
>> 2. Should job applicants be required to produce a photo ID before
>> getting a job?
>
>Yes
>
>Some years ago I would have been opposed to a National ID. But the
>illegal alien situation has reached the
>point where every measure must be taken to remove them from the job
>market and America.
>
>brad

I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.
From: Brent on
On 2010-06-22, brad herschel <bradherschel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Some years ago I would have been opposed to a National ID. But the
> illegal alien situation has reached the
> point where every measure must be taken to remove them from the job
> market and America.

You walked right into the trap. Think about it. Government provides all
sorts of incentives for illegal immigration. It provides welfare,
various services, etc and so forth (by taking our wealth and directing
it to that purpose). It imposes and increases a minimum wage cutting
americans with low skills off of the job ladder. It provides
welfare that is worth more than that first job that serves as the first
step to independence. That work still needs to be done. So it gets done
by someone outside the law, the illegal immigrant.

This gets the remaining tax paying productive americans screaming about
the taxes they have to pay to support illegals. How illegals took their
jobs. How illegals do this or do that. They demand security. They demand
the illegals be stopped. But how to tell an illegal from a legal?

Government loves providing security. It is a means by which it can
expand its power and size. It allows it to use its only tool, force.
You'll get numbered and tracked. You'll live as prisoner. It's the
only way to stop them the government says. You asked for it. You accept
it. You'll like it.

Meanwhile the illegal alien isn't bothered. If he is he has fake papers
to get by the checkpoints. The checkpoints are for you, for us, not the
illegal aliens.

If government came out one day decades ago and said it wanted to number
and track all of us and demand we had papers and permissions to do this
or that to travel or whatever people would have rejected it outright.
The trap is needed so that people not only tolerate it, but ask for it.
The door is starting to close. The war on illegal immigration... the war
on terror.... the war on drugs... really... the war on us.

Do you have your papers, comrade?



From: Brent on
On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.

"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered. My life is my own."

From: Lookout on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Brent
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 2010-06-22, Lookout <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been a favor of a national ID card for 30 years.
>
>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>numbered. My life is my own."

You already are. You have a SSN and a drivers license. The government
knows everything about you.