From: Steve Firth on
Mr. Benn <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

> "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1jlxt4v.insa3xpqkws2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...

> > it's

Tssk.
From: Adrian on
The Peeler <peelingthe(a)invalid.admin> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>>>>>>>>>>If you can afford £700 a month you can raise £50,000, the cost
>>>>>>>>>>over 3 years will be similar.

>>>>>>>>> 700 x 36 = 25200

>>>>>>>>You seem to forget that only the depreciation is being financed.

>>>>>>> You seem to forget that there are other costs associated with
>>>>>>> owning a car as opposed to leasing one.

>>>>>>Are you assuming all leases include all maintenance, consumables and
>>>>>>similar costs?

>>>>> I'm not.

>>>>Then you'll appreciate why your comment was a bloody daft one.

>>> I'll appreciate nothing of the sort. Leases can include road tax,
>>> maintenance etc.

>>Yes, they can and sometimes do. But most certainly not for free.

> Who said they were free? They're built into the price which you as a
> punter evaluate in deciding whether to buy or lease.

Correct. Which would make a lease with maintenance considerably more
expensive than the (wet finger in air) figure quoted.
From: The Peeler on
On 20 Jul 2010 17:37:04 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>The Peeler <peelingthe(a)invalid.admin> gurgled happily, sounding much like
>they were saying:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>If you can afford �700 a month you can raise �50,000, the cost
>>>>>>>>>>>over 3 years will be similar.
>
>>>>>>>>>> 700 x 36 = 25200
>
>>>>>>>>>You seem to forget that only the depreciation is being financed.
>
>>>>>>>> You seem to forget that there are other costs associated with
>>>>>>>> owning a car as opposed to leasing one.
>
>>>>>>>Are you assuming all leases include all maintenance, consumables and
>>>>>>>similar costs?
>
>>>>>> I'm not.
>
>>>>>Then you'll appreciate why your comment was a bloody daft one.
>
>>>> I'll appreciate nothing of the sort. Leases can include road tax,
>>>> maintenance etc.
>
>>>Yes, they can and sometimes do. But most certainly not for free.
>
>> Who said they were free? They're built into the price which you as a
>> punter evaluate in deciding whether to buy or lease.
>
>Correct. Which would make a lease with maintenance considerably more
>expensive than the (wet finger in air) figure quoted.

Maybe it's the *only* figure quoted.

Which may still seem attractive to a punter with no cash for an
upfront purchase.
From: Ed Chilada on
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:08:58 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man
<mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:44:07 +0100, Ed Chilada wrote:
>
>>> Do you think the only emotions possible are jealousy
>>> or hate?
>>
>> No, why would I?
>
>because its quite common for people who react to things like new cars in
>that way to assume everybody else does.

It is? Not me mate, if you're somehow attempting to deflect this
against me. I didn't have an issue with it and it certainly wouldn't
occur to me in a million years to start a thread about it!


>>I think there's a lot of it going on here though.
>> Just be aware that the desire to belittle people and slag them off
>> just because they appear to be doing well is very very transparent and
>> most people are more than aware of what emotions really drive it.
>
>Oh dear, this has nothing to do with "doing well", its to do with doing
>well *and* then acting like a prat. The prat bit is the point.

The point is that you are judging that behaviour to be that of a prat
for a reason. I don't judge it to be so and neither will he. So why do
you? What's the root cause there?



>> It's as obvious here as it is when people suggest that drivers in fast
>> cars have small penises.
>
>that is certainly stupid, but I see no parallel in laughing at ineptitude
>in chavs.

What's this got to do with "ineptitude" or "chavs"?


>>> Hes looking like a prat and i'm laughing at him, its that simple.
>>
>> Clearly he doesn't believe he looks like a prat or he almost certainly
>> wouldn't do it.
>
>of course he doesn't, that's a huge part of what's funny.

Do you also believe that you don't look like a sad prat with a chip on
his shoulder for starting this thread?

Not that this thread is funny, just a bit sad.


>>You appear to be vastly outside of his sphere of
>> experience and buying power and I very, very much suspect that it's in
>> the downward direction. From where I'm standing, I think I'd rather be
>> in his shoes (and cars), than yours. Not sure that really makes him
>> the "prat" in this picture...
>
>Oh dear oh dear, you really cant get your head away from the idea of envy
>can you.

Because I can see that it's a root cause in your desire to paint this
guy to be a "prat".


>Hes a prat because he's doing something pathetic, he has a nice car, but he
>doesn't have the sense to underplay it, he has to boast. Those of us with a
>bit of subtlety see it, you do not.

Here, Ladies and Gentlemen, is where we reach the crux of the issue.
*You* read it as a "boast", and clearly you have some issues with
that. You seem to have some random expectation that someone doing well
should "underplay it", and obviously it annoys you if they don't
adhere to your expectation. Because you believe he was a bit showy
(with a sticker, FFS), you think he's a prat. You could have thought
that and left it at that, but because you have *such* a chip on your
shoulder, you came onto usenet and started a thread about it,
specifically to call him a prat or *anker or whatever.

And he's supposed to be the prat here? Think again.

His shoes > your shoes. Deal with it.


>>>> If he were to see this thread, what do you think he'd think of you?
>>>
>>>who cares.
>>
>> Whether you care or not is irrelevant to my question, especially since
>> I dare say he wouldn't care what you think or about this thread you
>> started about it. However, the question remains:
>>
>> If he were to see this thread, what do you think he'd think of you?
>
>as i said, who cares about the opinions of those who are showing themselves
>up?

Once again you avoid the question. I'll try again:

If he were to see this thread, what do you think he'd think of you?



>>>> Would he be unjust to think exactly the same of you for posting this?
>>>
>>>If people behave like knobs, they will get laughed at. He can think what he
>>>likes.
>>
>> I think you're behaving like a knob, with this very thread. I suspect
>> he would too - and laugh at you about it.
>
>you two can laugh together, the rest of us will laugh at you.

Ah, so all the world bar two people agree with you eh? I can think of
great swathes of people who would think you very sad and jealous for
starting this kind of thread on usenet. Including me, of course.

From: Cockmaster II on
Ed Chilada wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:08:58 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man
> <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Not that this thread is funny, just a bit sad.

Well of course it is because you are contributing to it.


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