From: Adrian on 9 Sep 2009 16:20 "Dubber" <I.love.my.dub(a)veeedub.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>>>> Thinking about it - I would say that it is highly unlikely that >>>>>>> your speedo operates via GPS. If your sat-nav broke down for any >>>>>>> reason that would render your speedo inoperative and your car >>>>>>> illegal to drive. >>>>>> Is a speedo a legal requirement? >>>>> Yes - absolutely. >>>> Really? So the two motor vehicles I own which don't have speedos and >>>> never have had speedos are illegal, are they? >>> We were talking about public-road-going cars. I've no doubt that there >>> will be exemptions for vintage cars that were never fitted with >>> speedos. >> So the correct answer wasn't "Yes - absolutely", but "Yes - mainly, but >> there's some exceptions". > You wonder why people get irritated by you. Oh, look, another morphing fuckwit with nothing sensible to add. The point I raised is actually a very serious one that a lot of people work very hard to keep in the minds of legislators - that not every vehicle on the roads is a normal modern boring hatchback. There's a lot of older vehicles that could easily be driven off the roads by badly written or enforced legislation. When even an ex-TrafPlod takes the easy answer rather than think for a second, a reminder is sometimes needed. www.fbhvc.co.uk
From: Mike on 9 Sep 2009 16:25 On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:28:10 +0100, Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >It happens that Halmyre formulated : >> I don't know about the legality but AFAIK the MOT test doesn't include the >> speedometer (or at least it didn't in 1986!) > >They have no means to test them, either for function or accuracy. They >used to be able to at least test the function when they were allowed to >drive them on the road as part of the MOT - now they don't. Well isn't the vehicle tested on a rolling road for the brakes ? Mike P
From: Mike P on 9 Sep 2009 17:06 On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:25:52 +0100, Mike wrote: > On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:28:10 +0100, Harry Bloomfield > <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >>It happens that Halmyre formulated : >>> I don't know about the legality but AFAIK the MOT test doesn't include >>> the speedometer (or at least it didn't in 1986!) >> >>They have no means to test them, either for function or accuracy. They >>used to be able to at least test the function when they were allowed to >>drive them on the road as part of the MOT - now they don't. > > Well isn't the vehicle tested on a rolling road for the brakes ? Yes, but I doubt it goes fast enough to test a speedo Mike P (The other one)
From: Mike P on 9 Sep 2009 17:10 On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:23:07 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote: > Peter Johnson expressed precisely : >> Except that drivers using aftermarket satnavs may be driving at the >> speed indicated by the satnav not the speedo. (My car has a built-in >> satnav but I don't know whether the indicated speed is derived from >> that or not.) > > I doubt it would be, because the satnav speed is only updated once per > second in. In one second your true speed can vary by a great deal How does it vary a great deal in one second? Mike P
From: Steve Firth on 9 Sep 2009 17:41 Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > I doubt it would be, because the satnav speed is only updated once per > second in. Oh FFS, more Urban Myths.
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