From: Noddy on

"Toby" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Agreed however the problem is the definition of WRONG.
> But we needn't go there:-)

As you wish, but it sounds to me that your basic gripe is that you're
worried about being sprung for doing something shifty :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.


From: Noddy on

"Toby" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Prezactly - but the matter was aired by one of the panel seriously
> discussing the matter of the Black Saturday fires and the RC Report - as
> it
> happens on a 1 Hour Radio National special just after the (Saturday -
> natch) release of the monster report.

Good on them.

And even if all police and emergency service radio calls were broadcast in
the clear, what percentage of the population do you think would get any
tangible benefit out of it?

> Interesting stuff, that report.

To some no doubt.

> IIRC there was a similar one in 1939, I think was the year, whose
> recommendations were ignored.
> And won't someone listen to the Natives?????
> Nah.

People often don't listen to the natives as they seem to spend an inordinate
amount of time pissing and moaning about things and wanting *other* people
to take care of them.

With respect, some have a legitimate gripe. However others seem to think
that because *they* choose to live in high fire danger areas it falls on the
taxpayer to ensure that they have everything they need to protect themselves
if there's a problem.

The loss of 170 odd people on Black Saturday was a tragedy, but more than a
few of those people died because they were very, very foolish.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


From: Kev on
D Walford wrote:

>> Fine - GPS tracking is very much the benign brother.
>> It's passive surveillance, and it works.
>
> Maybe passive here but not elsewhere, mates brother is a truck driver in
> the UK and his boss is very active tracking all his drivers, he even
> calls the drivers and tells them when to take breaks because they can be
> fined from gps evidence (which must be logged and kept) for going over
> their driving hours and they are very strict.


With the Fatigue/Mass Management scheme the company has to keep evidence
for compliance. that means the GPS data must match all written data(log
book/daily run sheet)
and they are Audited

Kev
From: Kev on
Noddy wrote:
> "Toby"<me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:1ftqwjzqmays6$.fw6lk1sy8fj2$.dlg(a)40tude.net...
>
>> Prezactly - but the matter was aired by one of the panel seriously
>> discussing the matter of the Black Saturday fires and the RC Report - as
>> it
>> happens on a 1 Hour Radio National special just after the (Saturday -
>> natch) release of the monster report.
>
> Good on them.
>
> And even if all police and emergency service radio calls were broadcast in
> the clear, what percentage of the population do you think would get any
> tangible benefit out of it?
>
>> Interesting stuff, that report.
>
> To some no doubt.
>
>> IIRC there was a similar one in 1939, I think was the year, whose
>> recommendations were ignored.
>> And won't someone listen to the Natives?????
>> Nah.
>
> People often don't listen to the natives as they seem to spend an inordinate
> amount of time pissing and moaning about things and wanting *other* people
> to take care of them.
>
> With respect, some have a legitimate gripe. However others seem to think
> that because *they* choose to live in high fire danger areas it falls on the
> taxpayer to ensure that they have everything they need to protect themselves
> if there's a problem.
>
> The loss of 170 odd people on Black Saturday was a tragedy, but more than a
> few of those people died because they were very, very foolish.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.


He's alluding to the fact that no one will be able to listen and make
sure any fuckups aren't hidden

Of course the Fire Service is looking at the cost and usability of their
radio network
plenty of jobs could be dispatched via MDT instead of an OP doing via voice
this would leave the system less clogged with low priority jobs and open
for more pressing Comms
This can be done with the current Analogue system but they would need
more freqs to do it

The digital system allows the digital and voice traffic to share the
same freq


Oh and to hide fuckups from Toby


Kev
From: Matt Richards on
On 1/08/2010 9:29 AM, |-|ercules wrote:
> Don't get me wrong driving around a new town with a navigator lets you
> enjoy the ride
> knowing where you're going, it's like going from using a walking cane to
> seeing.
>
> But I bought a navman and it was a pain, I paid an extra $100 for live
> traffic updates but never saw any.

SUNA traffic doesn't cover everywhere, and I've never had any luck with
it when it was receiving traffic info. It was always wrong.

So SUNA traffic is backwards.. and what's SUNA in reverse? Yup. makes sense.

> I don't use it now because I bought it with a credit card so I assume
> the govt. can track me with it.
>
> Herc

Cover it in foil.

Matt.
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