From: SMS on
N8N wrote:

> VW's may have occasional niggling issues that other cars don't, but
> they last. And last. And last. Until the body rusts apart, which
> actually takes quite a long time, an A1 or A2 chassis VW will hardly
> ever have something break that is major enough to make you consider
> getting rid of it. They're also quite pleasant to drive, feel much
> more solid and yet sporty than other similar products from other
> mfgrs.

Yeah, I owned three VWs in the past. The problem was that the niggling
issues were often more than "occasional," and sometimes hard to
diagnose. OTOH they have very robust engines, the bodies don't easily
rust, the paint is magnitudes better than what you get on a Honda, and
replacement parts are widely available because so many of the parts are
standard across platforms, across the world. Plus they handle better
than the typical Toyota, Honda, or big 3 vehicle of the same size.

In my area, Toyota runs an automotive technology program at a local
college and turns out copious numbers of well-trained (and continually
trained) mechanics. Difficult to diagnose problems that result in
needless swapping of expensive components are rare if you have a well
trained mechanic.
From: clare on
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:51:25 -0500, Steve <no(a)spam.thanks> wrote:

>Tegger wrote:
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in news:4ae70c7c$1
>> @kcnews01:
>>
>>> A Toyota commercial they are running in my area claims that 80% of all
>>> Toyota sold in the last 20 years are still on the road. This seemed to
>>> be a very low number to me. What do other think?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I guess it depends where you live. In my area (the Rust Belt of north-
>> eastern North America), Toyota's number seems impossibly high, unless that
>> missing 20% is all concentrated up here.
>>
>
>Well, there to a first approximation there are about as many Toyotas in
>the junkyards I prowl for parts here in Texas as there are any other
>brand. And this sure isn't the rust belt....
Up here in the rust belt I don't see many. Funny.
From: cuhulin on
Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car
www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=276917

Yep, what a waste!
cuhulin

From: Tegger on
clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote in
news:qccke51mb1b9q7e9evahb4l5sdsd3cviaf(a)4ax.com:

> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:51:25 -0500, Steve <no(a)spam.thanks> wrote:
>
>>Tegger wrote:

>>>
>>>
>>> I guess it depends where you live. In my area (the Rust Belt of
>>> north-eastern North America), Toyota's number seems impossibly
>>> high, unless that missing 20% is all concentrated up here.
>>>
>>
>>Well, there to a first approximation there are about as many Toyotas
>>in the junkyards I prowl for parts here in Texas as there are any
>>other brand. And this sure isn't the rust belt....
>
>

> Up here in the rust belt I don't see many. Funny.
>


I don't know what wrecking yards you frequent, but my observation is
identical to Steve's. Except that American makes are more prevalent in
wrecking yards simply due to larger new-car sales.


--
Tegger

From: Dave on

"Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:hc7ooj$8am$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> C. E. White wrote:
>> A Toyota commercial they are running in my area claims that 80% of all
>> Toyota sold in the last 20 years are still on the road.
>
> And I personally own about half of them...

Highly unlikely..