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From: GT on 6 Aug 2010 09:54 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1p5adea0fc9qj.jn86kvs97dlj.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:38:06 +0100, GT wrote: > >> and then unlock below about 5mph, or definitely when stopped - which he >> was >> when they 'came' for the keys. > > as in the other post, his RR will almost certainly be the same as my LR. > Stays locked. Fair enough - they'll need to smash the windows and jump on the bonnet like gorillas then!!
From: GT on 6 Aug 2010 10:02 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1q3njuap2ijcr.kv5i42xhntl7.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:36:59 +0100, GT wrote: > >>> Ever been pulled over by the plod? Ever seen other people having been >>> pulled over? Easiest example is on the motorway - the plod is always >>> behind the car. >> >> Not the ones I've seen - the 'plod' is in front of the car with a flashy >> LED >> display in the rear window saying "Pull Over". > > I think they used to do that, now they approach from behind in case of > firearms. Well that's the only one I've seen in the real world. The ones on the TV usually take one of two forms: Either 3 cars boxing in the 'bad' car - the tactical stop thingy, or just 1 police car pursueing a 'bad' car and flashing the lights and waving their little police arms in a 'pull over' type guesture. Neither of these happen in the video in the OP - the police car drives along at 30mph, way way behind the 'bad' pensioner..
From: Periander on 6 Aug 2010 10:21 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in news:4c5c15dc$0$30205$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1q3njuap2ijcr.kv5i42xhntl7.dlg(a)40tude.net... >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:36:59 +0100, GT wrote: >> >>>> Ever been pulled over by the plod? Ever seen other people having >>>> been pulled over? Easiest example is on the motorway - the plod is >>>> always behind the car. >>> >>> Not the ones I've seen - the 'plod' is in front of the car with a >>> flashy LED >>> display in the rear window saying "Pull Over". >> >> I think they used to do that, now they approach from behind in case >> of firearms. > > Well that's the only one I've seen in the real world. > > The ones on the TV usually take one of two forms: Either 3 cars boxing > in the 'bad' car - the tactical stop thingy, or just 1 police car > pursueing a 'bad' car and flashing the lights and waving their little > police arms in a 'pull over' type guesture. Neither of these happen in > the video in the OP - the police car drives along at 30mph, way way > behind the 'bad' pensioner.. I'm afraid that you're talking absolute bollocks. Police are trained to stop vehicles from behind and pull in behind the vehicle being stopped. Yes, sometimes exceptionally the police vehicle may wish to stop the vehicle behind it and indicate it to pull over and yes sometimes when some vehicles won't stop they are subject to TPAC tactics but the vast majority are stopped from behind. The major reasons are as follows ... It's a very simple yet effective safety measure ... (1) the police vehicle doesn't get rammed by the vehicle it's trying to stop, (2) the police vehicle can give chase if the other vehicle fails to stop (whereas all it would have to do would be to pull over in to the next turning to avoid police if their vehicle was in front), and of course most importantly (3) - as most stops are routine and trouble free by stopping behind the vehicle being pulled over a safe working environment is created in the dead space between the two vehicles where neither police nor driver will be hit by other traffic. Oh and if you persist in your ill founded belief I'd advert your attention to "Roadcraft" the standard police (and now all emergency vehicle) textbook on the subject and of course the ACPO TPAC training materials. Alternatively join the police and in due course take a response or advanced driving course. -- Regards, Periander
From: boltar2003 on 6 Aug 2010 10:25 On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:21:42 GMT Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: >Oh and if you persist in your ill founded belief I'd advert your >attention to "Roadcraft" the standard police (and now all emergency >vehicle) textbook on the subject and of course the ACPO TPAC training >materials. Alternatively join the police and in due course take a >response or advanced driving course. Or better yet don't bother - just go on a track day course and learn about real car control, not the antiquated garbage you find in Road Craft. B2003
From: kkm on 6 Aug 2010 10:26
In article <l6adnbA0AuJGvsbRnZ2dnUVZ8tadnZ2d(a)bt.com>, Brimstone <brimstone520-ng08(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes > >"Paul" <23023(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:8c0l3bF5t6U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> On 05/08/2010 21:13, Brimstone wrote: >>> >>> "Paul" <23023(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:8c0k8tF13jU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> On 05/08/2010 21:09, Brimstone wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "martin" <usenet(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c5b16e2$0$12155$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk... >>>>>> On 05/08/2010 20:13, Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction. >>>>>>> It's >>>>>>> a wonderful example of how some public servants think they're the >>>>>>> masters and we are to do their bidding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a video on the website. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended- >smash-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Two policemen were suspended after a disabled pensioner claimed he >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> left terrified by officers who smashed his car window after >>>>>>> catching him >>>>>>> driving without a seatbelt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When stroke victim Robert Whatley, 70, was pulled over in his Range >>>>>>> Rover, he expected a brief discussion with the officers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hang on a sec! >>>>>> >>>>>> "Officers tried to issue him with a fixed penalty notice but Mr >>>>>> Whatley drove off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two Gwent police officers followed him along eight miles of country >>>>>> lanes for 17 minutes before trying to stop the �60,000 Range Rover >>>>>> with a stinger device. >>>>>> >>>>>> But Mr Whatley pulled over again and waited for them to approach. >>>>>> He was later charged with a series of motoring offences." >>>>>> >>>>>>> But he claims he was forced to cover his face and was showered with >>>>>>> glass as one officer jumped on to the bonnet and kicked his >>>>>>> windscreen >>>>>>> while another repeatedly attacked the window with a baton. >>>>>> >>>>>> Serves the fucker right! >>>>>> >>>>>> He suffered a couple of broken windows after fleeing from the police. >>>>>> Why didn't you post this information in the first place. If he'd >>>>>> stopped then all he might have had was a "discussion". >>>>> >>>>> Did you miss the bit where he said that he thought the matter was >>>>> concluded and do you think wrecking his car was justified? >>>>> >>>>> If so, why do you suppose they coppers concerned have been removed from >>>>> operations? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> So - you drive for 17 mins and think the police have their blues and >>>> twos on - 'to escort you home' >>>> >>>> what planet are you on? >>> >>> Perhaps you're accustomed to dealing with the police on a daily basis >>> and are totally familiar with their way of doing things. Obviously this >>> chap isn't. >>> >>> >> A 'retired businessman' with a 60k car with personal number plates must >> know what blues and twos are...shurely... > >Are you trying to suggest that smashing his car up and dragging him out of >the car in the manner they did was a proportional response to not wearing a >seatbelt? > > But arguably a proportional response to knocking down a policeman with your motor vehicle whilst he is examining the passenger side of your vehicle. To quote from the original article: "But when an officer went round to the passenger side, the car lurched forward and he was knocked over." -- K. |