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From: Periander on 6 Aug 2010 10:34 boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote in news:i3h60e$evu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:21:42 GMT > Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: >>Oh and if you persist in your ill founded belief I'd advert your >>attention to "Roadcraft" the standard police (and now all emergency >>vehicle) textbook on the subject and of course the ACPO TPAC training >>materials. Alternatively join the police and in due course take a >>response or advanced driving course. > > Or better yet don't bother - just go on a track day course and learn > about real car control, not the antiquated garbage you find in Road > Craft. Yes, drivng around in circles teaches you a lot of skills transferrable to the real world. Idiot. -- Regards, Periander
From: GT on 6 Aug 2010 10:42 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:un1k9j8pxzoh.9fgss52xwp89.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:54:01 +0100, GT wrote: > >>> as in the other post, his RR will almost certainly be the same as my LR. >>> Stays locked. >> >> Fair enough - they'll need to smash the windows and jump on the bonnet >> like >> gorillas then!! > > I suspect they are trained to go in fast, after all the average person who > fails to stop is going to be trouble. Put yourself in the coppers > position, > this old gaffer in a *Range Rover* (plenty of villans drive them) has > driven off mid interview. Is he carrying drugs? A firearm? Just because he > is 70 does not been he cannot be an armed criminal or a madman like that > bloke who recently shot and blinded a copper in the Lake District for no > rational reason at all. > He was being followed by a car with blue lights, (the idea of a police > escort is ridiculous) even if he thought it nothing to do with him (even > though he had just been speaking to the coppers) he should have pulled > over > to let it through. I agree with all but the last part - he should have pulled over if the police car was anywhere near him, but it wasn't.
From: GT on 6 Aug 2010 10:45 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1uvh8r5s240h2.wxti4a9hbrj8$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:02:06 +0100, GT wrote: > >>> I think they used to do that, now they approach from behind in case of >>> firearms. >> >> Well that's the only one I've seen in the real world. > > I see it from time to time on the mways, the police pull up behind now. Fair enough - enough of you have seen otherwise, so I'll bow to everone's greater knowledge. I've only seen it once in the real world and the TPACs on the telly are probably extreme cases - why else do they make the telly!
From: Mike Ross on 6 Aug 2010 10:49 On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:31:29 +0100, "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >"Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng08(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >news:YdadnYh8R_bwkMbRnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction. It's a >>wonderful example of how some public servants think they're the masters and >>we are to do their bidding. >> >> There is a video on the website. >> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-smash-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html > >Aww bless - even though he ran over 1 policeman, they still gave him a 17 >mile blues-n-twos escort home. That is service for you. I'm having a lot of trouble swallowing that frog myself. There's more to this than meets the eye I think; if you have police car with lights & sirens behind you, you bloody well PULL OVER. They may want you to stop, they may just want to get past in a hurry, but you PULL OVER. I can't swallow the 'escort' story and I frankly don't know what the guy was thinking. Having said that, the guy DID stop immediately when an officer in front of him indicated he should stop, and at no time was he speeding or driving in a dangerous manner; this was in no sense a pursuit of a fugitive or a serious attempt to escape. And, they KNEW they were dealing with a very elderly chap. Now there are some elderly chaps who are complete bastards, can be very aggressive, sure. Some were serious hard cases in their younger days, no doubt. But still, he was 70, they knew this, and I haven't heard anything to suggest he was aggresive. With this in mind I'd say the actions of the arresting officers were OTT. Was it REALLY vital to public safety to stop the vehicle so permanently and aggressively, right there and then? I'd especially question the 'jump on the bonnet and kick the windscreen' tactic; that seems to me to be just begging to end in an officer seriously injured or killed. I wonder if they would dare do that with a REAL hardcore TWOCer, who is liable to ram a police car or knock over an officer without compunction? Their response is liable to be 'Filth on my bonnet? Let's try to knock it off...'. In this case it looked more like wanton vandalism - criminal damage. I wouldn't be surprised to see that get charged. Mike -- http://www.corestore.org 'As I walk along these shores I am the history within'
From: GT on 6 Aug 2010 10:52
"Periander" <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote in message news:Xns9DCC9F005B076ulmbritwarcouk(a)69.16.176.253... > boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote in news:i3h60e$evu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:21:42 GMT >> Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: >>>Oh and if you persist in your ill founded belief I'd advert your >>>attention to "Roadcraft" the standard police (and now all emergency >>>vehicle) textbook on the subject and of course the ACPO TPAC training >>>materials. Alternatively join the police and in due course take a >>>response or advanced driving course. >> >> Or better yet don't bother - just go on a track day course and learn >> about real car control, not the antiquated garbage you find in Road >> Craft. > > Yes, drivng around in circles teaches you a lot of skills transferrable to > the real world. Idiot. Like roundabouts, you mean? Or junctions? Or corners? |