From: NM on
On 6 Aug, 16:37, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:06:06 -0400, Mike Ross wrote:
> > I don't agree with extra-judicial punishment, even for arrogant
> > wankers, and that appeared to me to be what the police did to his car.
>
> just opening a locked car that could contain an armed man. How would you do
> it?
> --


Isn't there a danger that the armed man will discharge his arm through
the car door panel and into the uniformed lout that was trying to
smash his way in? Seems to me to be a stupid policy, any creedence
that could be given to disorientation and surprise has long since
dissapeared as it's nightly fodder on certain TV channels so villians
are amply prepared.
From: NM on
On 6 Aug, 16:40, Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote:
> Mike Ross <m...(a)corestore.org> wrote innews:8q6o5611tl7ejd8lesudp8gdhqbu8l6u57(a)4ax.com:
>
>
>
> > Having said that, the guy DID stop immediately when an officer in
> > front of him indicated he should stop
>
> No he stopped when a police officer managed to deploy a Stinger in front of
> him and there wasn't room to get past it. Not quite the same thing.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Periander

Him stopping and the stinger deployment ahead of him have yet to be
shown as connected events, probably the cops in front waved him down
and the stinger was incidental, possibly not even seen by him given
his confused state, certainly the stinger did not stop him.
From: zaax on
Brimstone wrote:

> I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction. It's a wonderful example of how some public servants think they're the masters and we are to do their bidding.
>
> There is a video on the website.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-smash-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html
>
> "Two policemen were suspended after a disabled pensioner claimed he was left terrified by officers who smashed his car window after catching him driving without a seatbelt.
>
> When stroke victim Robert Whatley, 70, was pulled over in his Range Rover, he expected a brief discussion with the officers.
>
> But he claims he was forced to cover his face and was showered with glass as one officer jumped on to the bonnet and kicked his windscreen while another repeatedly attacked the window with a baton.
>
> The ensuing action was caught on film by a police camera placed on the patrol car's dashboard."

It's public knowledge that he has convictions for traffic offences, abusive behaviour and has made previous allegations against Police! Coincidence?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Robert-Whatleys-car-window-smashed-OAP-dragged-police-officers.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#ixzz0vqMB5qUd

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zaax
Frustration casues accidents: allow faster traffic to overtake.
From: Periander on
NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in
news:e2a782d3-1828-4688-b568-cf7edb3e6476(a)l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> On 6 Aug, 16:40, Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote:
>> Mike Ross <m...(a)corestore.org> wrote
>> innews:8q6o5611tl7ejd8lesudp8gdhqbu8l6u57(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Having said that, the guy DID stop immediately when an officer in
>> > front of him indicated he should stop
>>
>> No he stopped when a police officer managed to deploy a Stinger in
>> front of him and there wasn't room to get past it. Not quite the same
>> thing.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Periander
>
> Him stopping and the stinger deployment ahead of him have yet to be
> shown as connected events, probably the cops in front waved him down
> and the stinger was incidental, possibly not even seen by him given
> his confused state, certainly the stinger did not stop him.

I never said it did, I said that he stopped when a Stinger was deployed
in front of him in a position where he couldn't avoid it. That is
factually accurate. As for his "confused state" I suspect that he wasn't
all that confused when he drove into a police officer in his haste to
make good his escape.

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Regards,


Periander
From: Periander on
NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in
news:73c4b8b7-a89b-4123-b71c-8679acc19ad6(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:

> On 6 Aug, 14:38, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
>> "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
>> messagenews:14mkfoxelj0g6.m2j1se83ogev.dlg(a)40tude.net...
>>
>> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 13:06:18 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>> >> But, in the UK, most people don't normally manually lock their
>> >> doors when driving.
>>
>> > Land Rovers lock automatically at about 5mph.
>>
>> But don't they also unlock when you stop again (like in Rovers)
>
> I didn't see the police even try to open the door, straight in with
> the bully tactics.

Perhaps they did want to get run over - again.

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Regards,


Periander
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