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From: NM on 7 Aug 2010 02:33 On 6 Aug, 22:54, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message > > news:186a40ce-eec0-4e43-a9d3-86440a891be5(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On 6 Aug, 15:20, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:54:01 +0100, GT wrote: > >> >> as in the other post, his RR will almost certainly be the same as my > >> >> LR. > >> >> Stays locked. > > >> > Fair enough - they'll need to smash the windows and jump on the bonnet > >> > like > >> > gorillas then!! > > >> I suspect they are trained to go in fast, after all the average person > >> who > >> fails to stop is going to be trouble. Put yourself in the coppers > >> position, > >> this old gaffer in a *Range Rover* (plenty of villans drive them) has > >> driven off mid interview. Is he carrying drugs? A firearm? Just because > >> he > >> is 70 does not been he cannot be an armed criminal or a madman like that > >> bloke who recently shot and blinded a copper in the Lake District for no > >> rational reason at all. > >> He was being followed by a car with blue lights, (the idea of a police > >> escort is ridiculous) even if he thought it nothing to do with him (even > >> though he had just been speaking to the coppers) he should have pulled > >> over > >> to let it through. > >> -- > > > So you smash his car up and assult him just to be on the safe side? > > Who is claiming he was assaulted? > I saw him being led out of his car. > > that is an assault on his person.
From: Steve Walker on 7 Aug 2010 04:09 NM wrote: | No charges were brought therefore this cannot be serious, seems | like the old duffer got a bit confused after dealing with the | uniformed louts. For sure he would have faced charges if it | really happened as said in the Daily Wail. He did face, and admit, a number of charges
From: Steve Walker on 7 Aug 2010 04:14 GT wrote: || but I think they could have tried a little harder to stop the || vehicle - 17 miles and they couldn't get in front of a car doing || 30mph??? I wouldn't try to overtake a hostile RangeRover on a narrow road
From: Steve O on 7 Aug 2010 06:04 "Mike Ross" <mike(a)corestore.org> wrote in message news:eo6p56de9g11h78b8mmfng1idh1hibnm7h(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 22:56:33 +0100, "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> > wrote: > > > (Steve wrote nothing!) > > >>"Mike Ross" <mike(a)corestore.org> wrote in message >>news:qv8o56lr19ckt8d6h15ncfoh6fhmvrjavl(a)4ax.com... >>> On 6 Aug 2010 14:58:06 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Mike Ross <mike(a)corestore.org> gurgled happily, sounding much like they >>>>were saying: >>>> >>>>> And, they KNEW they were dealing with a very elderly chap. Now there >>>>> are >>>>> some elderly chaps who are complete bastards, can be very aggressive, >>>>> sure. Some were serious hard cases in their younger days, no doubt. >>>>> But >>>>> still, he was 70, they knew this, and I haven't heard anything to >>>>> suggest he was aggresive. >>>> >>>>Apart from the fact that 70 is a long way from "very elderly", do you >>>>think that the acceptable standard of driving for the "very elderly" >>>>should be somehow lowered far enough to include such massive lapses of >>>>observation and judgement? >>> >>> No. And don't put words in my mouth; I never suggested such a thing. In >>> fact I >>> said I didn't know what the guy was thinking when he didn't stop. 70 is >>> getting >>> on, and my comments were about how the police dealt with him when he DID >>> stop! >>> >>> Mike >>> -- >>> http://www.corestore.org >>> 'As I walk along these shores >>> I am the history within' > > You seem to be having posting issues, Steve - a bunch of followups with no > actual text from you! Thanks for the heads up-not sure what happened
From: Steve O on 7 Aug 2010 06:10
"NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:73f971cf-4c87-4e10-ac53-601d752bafe4(a)5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > On 6 Aug, 22:54, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message >> >> news:186a40ce-eec0-4e43-a9d3-86440a891be5(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On 6 Aug, 15:20, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> >> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:54:01 +0100, GT wrote: >> >> >> as in the other post, his RR will almost certainly be the same as >> >> >> my >> >> >> LR. >> >> >> Stays locked. >> >> >> > Fair enough - they'll need to smash the windows and jump on the >> >> > bonnet >> >> > like >> >> > gorillas then!! >> >> >> I suspect they are trained to go in fast, after all the average person >> >> who >> >> fails to stop is going to be trouble. Put yourself in the coppers >> >> position, >> >> this old gaffer in a *Range Rover* (plenty of villans drive them) has >> >> driven off mid interview. Is he carrying drugs? A firearm? Just >> >> because >> >> he >> >> is 70 does not been he cannot be an armed criminal or a madman like >> >> that >> >> bloke who recently shot and blinded a copper in the Lake District for >> >> no >> >> rational reason at all. >> >> He was being followed by a car with blue lights, (the idea of a police >> >> escort is ridiculous) even if he thought it nothing to do with him >> >> (even >> >> though he had just been speaking to the coppers) he should have pulled >> >> over >> >> to let it through. >> >> -- >> >> > So you smash his car up and assult him just to be on the safe side? >> >> Who is claiming he was assaulted? >> I saw him being led out of his car. >> >> > > that is an assault on his person. Your implication was that a criminal assault had occurred. It didn't. While I would grant that the officer smashing the window didn't give the gent much opportunity to open the door, it is important to note that he had been engaged on a low speed pursuit for 17 minutes, had failed to stop, had previously struck another officer either deliberately or accidentally, and only stopped because a stop stick was deployed in front of him. The officer would have no way of knowing if the driver was about to make off again, so his actions were fairly reasonable. Not too sure why the other officer felt it necessary to jump on the bonnet as this would be quite unsafe to do while the driver still had control of the car. I doubt if that one is in the manual. |