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From: Brimstone on 7 Aug 2010 07:15 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:18gn6gc98uwjp$.ejch47h0nb8o.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:58:52 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >>> They definitely knew he was a pensioner, but from their point of view >>> they >>> stopped a car and before they had finished warning the driver, he >>> suddenly >>> set off, knocking over / running down a policeman and then failed to >>> stop >>> for the next 17 miles - they didn't really know who they were dealing >>> with >>> on the second stop! >> There appears to be some confusion, I thought the story of Dr Jekyll and >> Mr >> Hyde was fiction. > > think about the possibilty that somebody who drives off while under > investigation might act differently when stopped again. For all they knew > he may have had a firearm. > If he had a firearm one of two scenarios would take place. 1) He'd have used it when first stopped. 2) He wouldn't use it at all.
From: Paul on 7 Aug 2010 07:44 Brimstone wrote: > > "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1qjg36vdig71x.17i3j678xon7j.dlg(a)40tude.net... >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:55:47 +0100, Brimstone wrote: >> >>> Anyone who condones and old man's car being smashed up to give a >>> couple of >>> coppers some sport is a thug. >> >> that comment is idiotic. >> > I'm disappointed. > > Incessantly...
From: Paul on 7 Aug 2010 07:45 Brimstone wrote: > > "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:18gn6gc98uwjp$.ejch47h0nb8o.dlg(a)40tude.net... >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:58:52 +0100, Brimstone wrote: >> >>>> They definitely knew he was a pensioner, but from their point of >>>> view they >>>> stopped a car and before they had finished warning the driver, he >>>> suddenly >>>> set off, knocking over / running down a policeman and then failed to >>>> stop >>>> for the next 17 miles - they didn't really know who they were >>>> dealing with >>>> on the second stop! >>> There appears to be some confusion, I thought the story of Dr Jekyll >>> and Mr >>> Hyde was fiction. >> >> think about the possibilty that somebody who drives off while under >> investigation might act differently when stopped again. For all they knew >> he may have had a firearm. >> > If he had a firearm one of two scenarios would take place. > 1) He'd have used it when first stopped. > 2) He wouldn't use it at all. > > Do you have a cite for the stats on this?
From: Kim Bolton on 7 Aug 2010 08:49 Periander wrote: >boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote in news:i3h60e$evu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:21:42 GMT >> Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: >>>Oh and if you persist in your ill founded belief I'd advert your >>>attention to "Roadcraft" the standard police (and now all emergency >>>vehicle) textbook on the subject and of course the ACPO TPAC training >>>materials. Alternatively join the police and in due course take a >>>response or advanced driving course. >> >> Or better yet don't bother - just go on a track day course and learn >> about real car control, not the antiquated garbage you find in Road >> Craft. > >Yes, drivng around in circles teaches you a lot of skills transferrable to >the real world. Idiot. Like compulsory off-road motorcycle training? -- from Kim Bolton
From: Kim Bolton on 7 Aug 2010 08:52
martin wrote: >On 06/08/2010 17:41, NM wrote: >> On 6 Aug, 17:31, Periander<ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: > >>> I never said it did, I said that he stopped when a Stinger was deployed >>> in front of him in a position where he couldn't avoid it. That is >>> factually accurate. As for his "confused state" I suspect that he wasn't >>> all that confused when he drove into a police officer in his haste to >>> make good his escape. > >> If he did why was he not charged? seems like that is a bit of >> hyperbole. > >Not really, that's a standby charge in case all else fails. Someone I >know got done for that for driving off from a stop. But the drink >driving charge was brought in front of the mags. Similar here, he got >done for the various charged and the incidental ones got dropped. It didn't work out like that in the Tomlinson case, for some strange reason. -- from Kim Bolton |