From: martin on
On 05/08/2010 21:49, Brimstone wrote:
>
> "Paul" <23023(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> A 'retired businessman' with a 60k car with personal number plates
>> must know what blues and twos are...shurely...
>
> Are you trying to suggest that smashing his car up and dragging him out
> of the car in the manner they did was a proportional response to not
> wearing a seatbelt?

Fleeing a police stop, knocking down a copper, chase through the
countryside until he met a stinger

Yep, I'd say so.

>
>

From: Brimstone on

"martin" <usenet(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4c5b1ba1$0$28001$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk...
> On 05/08/2010 21:09, Brimstone wrote:
>>
>> "martin" <usenet(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:4c5b16e2$0$12155$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>>> On 05/08/2010 20:13, Brimstone wrote:
>>>> I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction.
>>>> It's
>>>> a wonderful example of how some public servants think they're the
>>>> masters and we are to do their bidding.
>>>>
>>>> There is a video on the website.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-smash-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Two policemen were suspended after a disabled pensioner claimed he was
>>>> left terrified by officers who smashed his car window after catching
>>>> him
>>>> driving without a seatbelt.
>>>>
>>>> When stroke victim Robert Whatley, 70, was pulled over in his Range
>>>> Rover, he expected a brief discussion with the officers.
>>>
>>> Hang on a sec!
>>>
>>> "Officers tried to issue him with a fixed penalty notice but Mr
>>> Whatley drove off.
>>>
>>> Two Gwent police officers followed him along eight miles of country
>>> lanes for 17 minutes before trying to stop the �60,000 Range Rover
>>> with a stinger device.
>>>
>>> But Mr Whatley pulled over again and waited for them to approach.
>>> He was later charged with a series of motoring offences."
>>>
>>>> But he claims he was forced to cover his face and was showered with
>>>> glass as one officer jumped on to the bonnet and kicked his windscreen
>>>> while another repeatedly attacked the window with a baton.
>>>
>>> Serves the fucker right!
>>>
>>> He suffered a couple of broken windows after fleeing from the police.
>>> Why didn't you post this information in the first place. If he'd
>>> stopped then all he might have had was a "discussion".
>>
>> Did you miss the bit where he said that he thought the matter was
>> concluded and do you think wrecking his car was justified?
>
> I also didn't miss the part where he thought the police were using blues
> and two to give him an escort home and he "got confused".
>
> The daft sod is obviously senile.
>
>> If so, why do you suppose they coppers concerned have been removed from
>> operations?
>
> I don't normally have much sympathy coppers who go over the top, it's
> alleged he ran one down. The guy is senile, if he's happy to drive off
> almost running over a copper he probably has no idea what went on.

Where in that video does it show the Range Rover attempting to move off?

The copper leapt out of the pursuing car and went straight up and tried to
break the driver's window. Having spoke to him previously they knew he was
an old man.

Are you trying to suggest that this was a proportional response to the
situation?


From: Brimstone on

"martin" <usenet(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4c5b1bf2$0$28001$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk...
> On 05/08/2010 21:10, Brimstone wrote:
>>
>> "martin" <usenet(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:4c5b1a18$0$28001$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>>> On 05/08/2010 21:00, Paul wrote:
>>>> On 05/08/2010 20:13, Brimstone wrote:
>>>>> I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction.
>>>>> It's
>>>>> a wonderful example of how some public servants think they're the
>>>>> masters and we are to do their bidding.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a video on the website.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-smash-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Two policemen were suspended after a disabled pensioner claimed he
>>>>> was
>>>>> left terrified by officers who smashed his car window after catching
>>>>> him
>>>>> driving without a seatbelt.
>>>>>
>>>>> When stroke victim Robert Whatley, 70, was pulled over in his Range
>>>>> Rover, he expected a brief discussion with the officers.
>>>>>
>>>>> But he claims he was forced to cover his face and was showered with
>>>>> glass as one officer jumped on to the bonnet and kicked his windscreen
>>>>> while another repeatedly attacked the window with a baton.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ensuing action was caught on film by a police camera placed on the
>>>>> patrol car's dashboard."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Two sides to every story...
>>>>
>>>> "Officers tried to issue him with a fixed penalty notice but Mr Whatley
>>>> drove off."
>>>>
>>>> Two Gwent police officers followed him along eight miles of country
>>>> lanes for 17 minutes before trying to stop the �60,000 Range Rover with
>>>> a stinger device.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "He said he thought that the blue lights and siren of the pursuing car
>>>> meant the officer was giving him a police escort home."
>>>>
>>>> LOL
>>>
>>> Silly old duffer. He needs taking off the road
>>>
>>> "'I thought he had finished with me. I just drove off coolly and
>>> calmly and not off at speed.'
>>>
>>> Mr Whatley, who never broke the speed limit during the chase, said he
>>> had become confused during the pursuit.
>>>
>>> He said he thought that the blue lights and siren of the pursuing car
>>> meant the officer was giving him a police escort home."
>>>
>>> Daft old fool
>>
>> That'll be you one day, if a copper lets you live that long.
>
> No, I would hope someone would take me off the road before I become a
> danger to the public like that. Daft old sod.
>
Given your attitude in this thread, it's unlikely you'd listen to them.


From: Paul on
On 05/08/2010 21:49, Brimstone wrote:
>
> "Paul" <23023(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8c0l3bF5t6U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> On 05/08/2010 21:13, Brimstone wrote:
>>>
>>> "Paul" <23023(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8c0k8tF13jU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 05/08/2010 21:09, Brimstone wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "martin" <usenet(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4c5b16e2$0$12155$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>>>>>> On 05/08/2010 20:13, Brimstone wrote:
>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> a wonderful example of how some public servants think they're the
>>>>>>> masters and we are to do their bidding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a video on the website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-smash-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Two policemen were suspended after a disabled pensioner claimed he
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> left terrified by officers who smashed his car window after
>>>>>>> catching him
>>>>>>> driving without a seatbelt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When stroke victim Robert Whatley, 70, was pulled over in his Range
>>>>>>> Rover, he expected a brief discussion with the officers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hang on a sec!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Officers tried to issue him with a fixed penalty notice but Mr
>>>>>> Whatley drove off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two Gwent police officers followed him along eight miles of country
>>>>>> lanes for 17 minutes before trying to stop the �60,000 Range Rover
>>>>>> with a stinger device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But Mr Whatley pulled over again and waited for them to approach.
>>>>>> He was later charged with a series of motoring offences."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But he claims he was forced to cover his face and was showered with
>>>>>>> glass as one officer jumped on to the bonnet and kicked his
>>>>>>> windscreen
>>>>>>> while another repeatedly attacked the window with a baton.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Serves the fucker right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He suffered a couple of broken windows after fleeing from the police.
>>>>>> Why didn't you post this information in the first place. If he'd
>>>>>> stopped then all he might have had was a "discussion".
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you miss the bit where he said that he thought the matter was
>>>>> concluded and do you think wrecking his car was justified?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, why do you suppose they coppers concerned have been removed
>>>>> from
>>>>> operations?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> So - you drive for 17 mins and think the police have their blues and
>>>> twos on - 'to escort you home'
>>>>
>>>> what planet are you on?
>>>
>>> Perhaps you're accustomed to dealing with the police on a daily basis
>>> and are totally familiar with their way of doing things. Obviously this
>>> chap isn't.
>>>
>>>
>> A 'retired businessman' with a 60k car with personal number plates
>> must know what blues and twos are...shurely...
>
> Are you trying to suggest that smashing his car up and dragging him out
> of the car in the manner they did was a proportional response to not
> wearing a seatbelt?
>
>
A proportional response to someone trying to run down a policeman and
resisting arrest...do you have a problem with obeying police directions?
From: Paul on
On 05/08/2010 21:51, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
>> Are you trying to suggest that smashing his car up and dragging him out of
>> the car in the manner they did was a proportional response to not wearing a
>> seatbelt?
>
> Prepare for some saying "yes".
>
> WM

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