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"Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng08(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
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>> "Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng08(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:818cfe14-a4d5-448b-b6fa-f947c170ea87(a)v41g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On 7 Aug, 14:29, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:9406553c-28e5-4a21-b31f-abec62d16ca3(a)v41g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 7 Aug, 11:10, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>news:73f971cf-4c87-4e10-ac53-601d752bafe4(a)5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > On 6 Aug, 22:54, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >>news:186a40ce-eec0-4e43-a9d3-86440a891be5(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> > On 6 Aug, 15:20, Chelsea Tractor Man
>>>>>> >> >> > <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
>>>>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:54:01 +0100, GT wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > But really they were enjoying a bit of legalised bullying, as you
>>>>>> > well
>>>>>> > know and can be seen in the video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would you call it bullying?
>>>>>
>>>>> What would you call several fit active thugs in uniform terrorising an
>>>>> OAP?
>>>>
>>>> They weren't terrorising anyone- they were trying to stop a driver who
>>>> would not comply.
>>>
>>> He was stopped.
>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any other suggestions as to how the vehicle could be
>>>>>> stopped?
>>>>>
>>>>> He did the stopping by himself. there was no need for the thugs.
>>>>
>>>> No, he stopped because the police had deployed a stop stick across the
>>>> road.
>>>
>>> He stopped because a copper in front signalled him to do so. Which gives
>>> the lie to your comment above.
>>>
>> Read the articles
>> A stinger was deployed, but he did not cross it.
>> Do you normally accuse people of lying without foundation, or do you
>> simply just get confused?
>
> Your comment about the "stop stick" suggests that it was that which
> stopped him. You've now admitted that he stopped before crossing it.
> Therefore he must have stopped in response to a copper's signal.

Duh!
He stopped because he didn't want all of his tyres burst.
I don't suppose he expected to have his window put in.

>
>>>> He could have even performed a u-turn, unless he was stopped by the
>>>> officer who "opened" his window.
>>
>>>
>>> Why would he turn round, his destination was in front?
>>
>> To continue trying to get away from the police?
>> I've seen old duffers like that before- they seem to think that if they
>> keep going, the police will eventually give up and go away.
>
> You seem to think he was trying to get away. He say he believed the matter
> to have been concluded. Why would he be "trying to get away"?

Because he had no intention of stopping, until forced to do so.
>
>>>>>> Or do you think that motorists who fail to stop for the police after
>>>>>> striking one of them should be allowed to go about their business?
>>>>>
>>>>> He wasn't charged with striking one.
>>>>>
>>>> But that is exactly what he did.
>>>
>>> Evidence?
>>
>> His own admission.
>
> The report I read says the he denied the allegation.
>
>
>
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"Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
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> "Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng08(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:818cfe14-a4d5-448b-b6fa-f947c170ea87(a)v41g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On 7 Aug, 14:29, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> news:9406553c-28e5-4a21-b31f-abec62d16ca3(a)v41g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On 7 Aug, 11:10, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>news:73f971cf-4c87-4e10-ac53-601d752bafe4(a)5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> > On 6 Aug, 22:54, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> "NM" <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> >>news:186a40ce-eec0-4e43-a9d3-86440a891be5(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> >> > On 6 Aug, 15:20, Chelsea Tractor Man
>>>>>>> >> >> > <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
>>>>>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:54:01 +0100, GT wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > But really they were enjoying a bit of legalised bullying, as you
>>>>>>> > well
>>>>>>> > know and can be seen in the video.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would you call it bullying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What would you call several fit active thugs in uniform terrorising
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> OAP?
>>>>>
>>>>> They weren't terrorising anyone- they were trying to stop a driver who
>>>>> would not comply.
>>>>
>>>> He was stopped.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have any other suggestions as to how the vehicle could be
>>>>>>> stopped?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He did the stopping by himself. there was no need for the thugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, he stopped because the police had deployed a stop stick across the
>>>>> road.
>>>>
>>>> He stopped because a copper in front signalled him to do so. Which
>>>> gives the lie to your comment above.
>>>>
>>> Read the articles
>>> A stinger was deployed, but he did not cross it.
>>> Do you normally accuse people of lying without foundation, or do you
>>> simply just get confused?
>>
>> Your comment about the "stop stick" suggests that it was that which
>> stopped him. You've now admitted that he stopped before crossing it.
>> Therefore he must have stopped in response to a copper's signal.
>
> Duh!
> He stopped because he didn't want all of his tyres burst.
> I don't suppose he expected to have his window put in.

If he's as befuddled as you seem to think he is, what makes you think he saw
the stop stick before he saw the copper signalling him to stop? IIRC a stop
stick is black and when sitting on the road surface would be much less
visible than a person standing in the road holding his hand up near a police
car.

>>>>> He could have even performed a u-turn, unless he was stopped by the
>>>>> officer who "opened" his window.
>>>> Why would he turn round, his destination was in front?
>>>
>>> To continue trying to get away from the police?
>>> I've seen old duffers like that before- they seem to think that if they
>>> keep going, the police will eventually give up and go away.
>>
>> You seem to think he was trying to get away. He say he believed the
>> matter to have been concluded. Why would he be "trying to get away"?
>
> Because he had no intention of stopping, until forced to do so.

That's not an explanation of why he was "trying to get away".



From: Brimstone on

"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 18:31:03 +0100, Brimstone wrote:
>
>>>
>>> The Road Traffic Act.
>>>
>> There are many, which one?
>
> who cares, if you dont think you should pull over for emergency vehicles,
> you are beyond hope.
>
Making comments on something you've not read makes you look silly.


From: Brimstone on

"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 22:25:51 +0100, JMS wrote:
>
>>>Which means what?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I assume that you do not have a driving licence.
>>
>> It means exactly what it says in the Highway Code:
>>
>> Police stopping procedures. If the police want to stop your vehicle
>> they will, where possible, attract your attention by
>>
>> * flashing blue lights, headlights or sounding their siren or
>> horn, usually from behind
>> * directing you to pull over to the side by pointing and/or using
>> the left indicator
>>
>> You MUST then pull over and stop as soon as it is safe to do so. Then
>> switch off your engine.
>>
>>
>> Note the word MUST.
>
> somebody please accuse somebody of being a nazi, this thread needs to end
> when it gets to the point of having to demonstrate this idiot should have
> stopped for a police car with blaring twos and blues.
>
You're trotting out your infamous "common sense" again aren't you.



From: Brimstone on

"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:16:22 +0100, Brimstone wrote:
>
>> No analysis is required. Supporting thuggish behaviour is tantamount to
>> behaving in the same manner.
>
> not when the thuggishness is just in your head.
>
It's in the video, kindly recorded by the perpetrators, for all to see.


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