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From: Brent on 26 Apr 2010 10:32 The angry man is an off duty cop... so it isn't his home that gets raided and his computers taken when his feelings are hurt that his thuggery ends up on youtube. http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/19/motorcyclist-arrested-for-recording-cop-brandishing-gun-with-hel/ http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/maryland-motorcyclist-spends-26-hours-in-jail-on-wiretapping-charge-for-filming-cop-with-gun/ "The incident has left Graber with a serious distrust of police." Ya think?
From: gpsman on 26 Apr 2010 12:18 On Apr 26, 10:32 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Another s l o w day at the ol' engineering factory...? Nothing is so satisfying to the lazy mind as news that reinforces a negative stereotype.- Paul Theroux > The angry man is an off duty cop... so it isn't his home that gets > raided and his computers taken when his feelings are hurt that his > thuggery ends up on youtube. And neither was that of his mother, with whom it seems safe he does not reside, unlike our hero and reported father of two. "He had been recording this trooper audibly without his consent," stated said one official. That kind of recording is against the law in Maryland. as a matter of fact, audibly recording somebody without their consent is a felony." http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0410/725740.html You might be familiar with the common disclaimer; "This call may be monitored or recorded<>" > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/19/motorcyclist-arrested-for-recordin... > > http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/maryland-motorcyclist-spends-26-ho... > > "The incident has left Graber with a serious distrust of police." > > Ya think? Yes, but you obviously don't. Could not the antics of this inferior and stupid rider leave motorists with a serious distrust of motorcycle operators, maybe even cause them to crash at the sight of one, as you have asserted speed and red light cameras do? ----- - gpsman
From: richard on 26 Apr 2010 14:16 On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote: > On Apr 26, 10:32�am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Another s l o w day at the ol' engineering factory...? > > Nothing is so satisfying to the lazy mind as news that reinforces a > negative stereotype.- Paul Theroux > >> The angry man is an off duty cop... so it isn't his home that gets >> raided and his computers taken when his feelings are hurt that his >> thuggery ends up on youtube. > > And neither was that of his mother, with whom it seems safe he does > not reside, unlike our hero and reported father of two. The biker said he lived with his parents. > > "He had been recording this trooper audibly without his consent," > stated said one official. > So? I can legally record any audio from any source that is in the public view, including officers of the law. > That kind of recording is against the law in Maryland. as a matter of > fact, audibly recording somebody without their consent is a felony." > http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0410/725740.html But is the law constitutional? Such laws generally pertain to phone calls.In which the recording party must advise the other party the conversation is being recorded. That does not include times when people are standing face to face. > > You might be familiar with the common disclaimer; "This call may be > monitored or recorded<>" So where was the phone between these two? > >> http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/19/motorcyclist-arrested-for-recordin... >> >> http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/maryland-motorcyclist-spends-26-ho... >> >> "The incident has left Graber with a serious distrust of police." >> >> Ya think? > > Yes, but you obviously don't. > > Could not the antics of this inferior and stupid rider leave motorists > with a serious distrust of motorcycle operators, maybe even cause them > to crash at the sight of one, as you have asserted speed and red light > cameras do? I would suggest you learn some basics of law enforcement. Off duty officers are generally forbidden from making traffic stops of any kind. So the cop was pissed off. What prevented the cop from doing it the right way? Writing down the license plate number, calling 911 and making a formal complaint. Nothing. What prevented the officer from properly identifying himself with his badge in full view as he stepped out of the car?
From: Brent on 26 Apr 2010 14:59 On 2010-04-26, richard <member(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote: > >> On Apr 26, 10:32�am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Another s l o w day at the ol' engineering factory...? >> >> Nothing is so satisfying to the lazy mind as news that reinforces a >> negative stereotype.- Paul Theroux Gpstroll thinks he's being clever. *yawn* >>> The angry man is an off duty cop... so it isn't his home that gets >>> raided and his computers taken when his feelings are hurt that his >>> thuggery ends up on youtube. >> And neither was that of his mother, with whom it seems safe he does >> not reside, unlike our hero and reported father of two. > The biker said he lived with his parents. You expect reading comprehension from gpstroll? >> "He had been recording this trooper audibly without his consent," >> stated said one official. >> > > So? I can legally record any audio from any source that is in the public > view, including officers of the law. > >> That kind of recording is against the law in Maryland. as a matter of >> fact, audibly recording somebody without their consent is a felony." >> http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0410/725740.html > But is the law constitutional? Such laws generally pertain to phone > calls.In which the recording party must advise the other party the > conversation is being recorded. That does not include times when people are > standing face to face. There is no such thing as unconstitutional with a chain of command. We are just supposed to obey according to gpstroll. >> You might be familiar with the common disclaimer; "This call may be >> monitored or recorded<>" > So where was the phone between these two? He's taking the warped interpetation of cops... as usual. >>> http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/19/motorcyclist-arrested-for-recordin... >>> >>> http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/maryland-motorcyclist-spends-26-ho... >>> >>> "The incident has left Graber with a serious distrust of police." >>> >>> Ya think? >> Yes, but you obviously don't. >> Could not the antics of this inferior and stupid rider leave motorists >> with a serious distrust of motorcycle operators, maybe even cause them >> to crash at the sight of one, as you have asserted speed and red light >> cameras do? > I would suggest you learn some basics of law enforcement. Off duty officers > are generally forbidden from making traffic stops of any kind. So the cop > was pissed off. What prevented the cop from doing it the right way? Writing > down the license plate number, calling 911 and making a formal complaint. > Nothing. What prevented the officer from properly identifying himself with > his badge in full view as he stepped out of the car? Come on... gpstroll would sing the praises of the government and 'law is the law' while he hauled off to an extermination camp. The right way to him is obeying the chain of command no matter what.
From: richard on 26 Apr 2010 15:18
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:59:41 +0000 (UTC), Brent wrote: > On 2010-04-26, richard <member(a)newsguy.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote: >> >>> On Apr 26, 10:32�am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Another s l o w day at the ol' engineering factory...? >>> >>> Nothing is so satisfying to the lazy mind as news that reinforces a >>> negative stereotype.- Paul Theroux > > Gpstroll thinks he's being clever. *yawn* > >>>> The angry man is an off duty cop... so it isn't his home that gets >>>> raided and his computers taken when his feelings are hurt that his >>>> thuggery ends up on youtube. > >>> And neither was that of his mother, with whom it seems safe he does >>> not reside, unlike our hero and reported father of two. > >> The biker said he lived with his parents. > > You expect reading comprehension from gpstroll? > >>> "He had been recording this trooper audibly without his consent," >>> stated said one official. >>> >> >> So? I can legally record any audio from any source that is in the public >> view, including officers of the law. >> >>> That kind of recording is against the law in Maryland. as a matter of >>> fact, audibly recording somebody without their consent is a felony." >>> http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0410/725740.html > >> But is the law constitutional? Such laws generally pertain to phone >> calls.In which the recording party must advise the other party the >> conversation is being recorded. That does not include times when people are >> standing face to face. > > There is no such thing as unconstitutional with a chain of command. We > are just supposed to obey according to gpstroll. > >>> You might be familiar with the common disclaimer; "This call may be >>> monitored or recorded<>" > >> So where was the phone between these two? > > He's taking the warped interpetation of cops... as usual. > >>>> http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/19/motorcyclist-arrested-for-recordin... >>>> >>>> http://carlosmiller.com/2010/04/16/maryland-motorcyclist-spends-26-ho... >>>> >>>> "The incident has left Graber with a serious distrust of police." >>>> >>>> Ya think? > >>> Yes, but you obviously don't. >>> Could not the antics of this inferior and stupid rider leave motorists >>> with a serious distrust of motorcycle operators, maybe even cause them >>> to crash at the sight of one, as you have asserted speed and red light >>> cameras do? > >> I would suggest you learn some basics of law enforcement. Off duty officers >> are generally forbidden from making traffic stops of any kind. So the cop >> was pissed off. What prevented the cop from doing it the right way? Writing >> down the license plate number, calling 911 and making a formal complaint. >> Nothing. What prevented the officer from properly identifying himself with >> his badge in full view as he stepped out of the car? > > Come on... gpstroll would sing the praises of the government and 'law is > the law' while he hauled off to an extermination camp. The right way to > him is obeying the chain of command no matter what. Yep. He probably went to the cop school run by Steven Seagal in Louisiana. |