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From: John McKenzie on 12 May 2010 03:28 Scotty wrote: > > "Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote in message > news:1273643905.146582(a)idlwebserver.idl.com.au... > : Most of the vehicles that I see from QLD have QLD mod plates, and > : blatantly fail to comply with the ADRs or, in the case of modified > : trucks, VSB6. I'm not talking nit-picking fails, but major areas > : of failure such as a '60s Holden 186 in an '80s Hilux that was > : supposed to comply with ADR 27C, or a truck chassis where the > : extension joins didn't line up, so they welded a piece of steel > : square bar into the top flange to fill the gap - the bar was > : about double the thickness of the rail, the edges weren't aligned > : and there was no weld at all on the inside of the radius between > : the flange and web, where the square bar finished. > : > : I'm talking about national standards, including some written by > : Queenslanders. A big blue plate proclaims that the vehicle does > : comply with the rules, but it's obvious that it doesn't just by > : looking at it! > : > : Sometimes I also get the paperwork that goes with the blue plate, > : and it lists the ADRs that the vehicle is required to comply with, > : and is a declaration of compliance... > : > : -- > : Athol > : <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 > : I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > > From what Ive been advised the Blue compliance plate is only for certain mods. You could have an > engine swap thats plated and then raise it 4inches swap seats, chop the roof and it would still be > plated, but only for the engine swap. Many vehicles sold have the mod plates but not for all the > mods. And some places even roadworthy them after viewing the plates as well. > > Id like to see yearly testing for roadworthyness and a suitabel reduction in registration fees. surely no govco would even joke about entertaining consideration of the second idea -- John McKenzie tosspam(a)aol.com abuse(a)yahoo.com abuse(a)hotmail.com abuse(a)earthlink.com abuse(a)aol.com vice.president(a)whitehouse.gov president(a)whitehouse.gov sweep.day(a)accc.gov.au uce(a)ftc.gov admin(a)loopback abuse(a)iprimus.com.au $LOGIN(a)localhost I knew Sanchez before they were dirty root(a)mailloop.com $USER@$HOST $LOGNAME(a)localhost -h1024(a)localhost abuse(a)msn.com abuse(a)federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo(a)psinet.com abuse(a)asio.gov.au $USER(a)localhost abuse(a)sprint.com abuse(a)fbi.gov abuse(a)cia.gov
From: John_H on 12 May 2010 05:03 Scotty wrote: >"Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote in message >news:1273643905.146582(a)idlwebserver.idl.com.au... >: Most of the vehicles that I see from QLD have QLD mod plates, and >: blatantly fail to comply with the ADRs or, in the case of modified >: trucks, VSB6. I'm not talking nit-picking fails, but major areas >: of failure such as a '60s Holden 186 in an '80s Hilux that was >: supposed to comply with ADR 27C, or a truck chassis where the >: extension joins didn't line up, so they welded a piece of steel >: square bar into the top flange to fill the gap - the bar was >: about double the thickness of the rail, the edges weren't aligned >: and there was no weld at all on the inside of the radius between >: the flange and web, where the square bar finished. >: >: I'm talking about national standards, including some written by >: Queenslanders. A big blue plate proclaims that the vehicle does >: comply with the rules, but it's obvious that it doesn't just by >: looking at it! >: >: Sometimes I also get the paperwork that goes with the blue plate, >: and it lists the ADRs that the vehicle is required to comply with, >: and is a declaration of compliance... > >From what Ive been advised the Blue compliance plate is only for certain mods. You could have an >engine swap thats plated and then raise it 4inches swap seats, chop the roof and it would still be >plated, but only for the engine swap. Many vehicles sold have the mod plates but not for all the >mods. And some places even roadworthy them after viewing the plates as well. Which is no different to any other state. They all have similar rules on modifications. As I see it, the essential difference with the Queensland "approved person" system is those who do the mods that require a blue plate are frequently the same businesses as those that approve them. The end result therefore depends to a large extent on the standards of those who are engaged in the business of modifying vehicles. > >Id like to see yearly testing for roadworthyness and a suitabel reduction in registration fees. Im >mean to say the $655 I pay now for a 4Cylnder is absolute bloody theft and thats without any >roadworthness factored in. There is absolutely no evidence I've ever seen that mandatory annual inspections of private cars does anything for road safety. Mechanical defects are a contributing factor in a very small proportion of crashes resulting in death injury and the difference between those states that have annual inspections and those that don't is SFA. -- John H
From: Noddy on 12 May 2010 06:17 " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message news:4bea49e1$0$12241$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > Id like to see yearly testing for roadworthyness and a suitabel reduction > in registration fees. Don't hold your breath. NSW has had annual roadworthy inspections for years while Victoria hasn't, and you'd have to go a *very* long way indeed to find *any* data to indicate that cars in NSW are generally kept in better overall condition, or the fact that they're inspected annually makes a poofteenth's difference to the road toll. All annual inspections have done in NSW at least is add 100 bucks a year to the overall running cost of a vehicle, and put licensed testers in a position where they can guarantee their work. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Diesel Damo on 12 May 2010 08:41 On May 12, 8:17 pm, "Noddy" <m...(a)home.com> wrote: > NSW has had annual roadworthy inspections for years while Victoria hasn't, > and you'd have to go a *very* long way indeed to find *any* data to indicate > that cars in NSW are generally kept in better overall condition, or the fact > that they're inspected annually makes a poofteenth's difference to the road > toll. You'd probably be horrified to discover how bad a car's stopping abilities can be while still being able to pass the yearly brake test. Remember Patrick saying how bad his brakes had gotten? He still passed his yearly inspection like that. Yet if you've got an *additional* driving lamp fitted to your car that doesn't work, you'll fail. Horn doesn't work? That's fine. Pass. > All annual inspections have done in NSW at least is add 100 bucks a year to > the overall running cost of a vehicle, and put licensed testers in a > position where they can guarantee their work. > > -- > Regards, > Noddy.
From: Brad on 12 May 2010 09:33
Noddy wrote: > " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message > news:4bea49e1$0$12241$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > >> Id like to see yearly testing for roadworthyness and a suitabel >> reduction in registration fees. > > Don't hold your breath. > > NSW has had annual roadworthy inspections for years while Victoria > hasn't, and you'd have to go a *very* long way indeed to find *any* > data to indicate that cars in NSW are generally kept in better > overall condition, or the fact that they're inspected annually makes > a poofteenth's difference to the road toll. > > All annual inspections have done in NSW at least is add 100 bucks a > year to the overall running cost of a vehicle, and put licensed > testers in a position where they can guarantee their work. And created a market in which the dodgiest mechanics can survive on handing out pinkslips at 60 bucks a pop. -- Brad |