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From: jonz on 12 May 2010 19:45 On 5/12/2010 7:03 PM, John_H wrote: > Scotty wrote: >> "Athol"<athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote in message >> news:1273643905.146582(a)idlwebserver.idl.com.au... >> : Most of the vehicles that I see from QLD have QLD mod plates, and >> : blatantly fail to comply with the ADRs or, in the case of modified >> : trucks, VSB6. I'm not talking nit-picking fails, but major areas >> : of failure such as a '60s Holden 186 in an '80s Hilux that was >> : supposed to comply with ADR 27C, or a truck chassis where the >> : extension joins didn't line up, so they welded a piece of steel >> : square bar into the top flange to fill the gap - the bar was >> : about double the thickness of the rail, the edges weren't aligned >> : and there was no weld at all on the inside of the radius between >> : the flange and web, where the square bar finished. >> : >> : I'm talking about national standards, including some written by >> : Queenslanders. A big blue plate proclaims that the vehicle does >> : comply with the rules, but it's obvious that it doesn't just by >> : looking at it! >> : >> : Sometimes I also get the paperwork that goes with the blue plate, >> : and it lists the ADRs that the vehicle is required to comply with, >> : and is a declaration of compliance... >> >> From what Ive been advised the Blue compliance plate is only for certain mods. You could have an >> engine swap thats plated and then raise it 4inches swap seats, chop the roof and it would still be >> plated, but only for the engine swap. Many vehicles sold have the mod plates but not for all the >> mods. And some places even roadworthy them after viewing the plates as well. > > Which is no different to any other state. They all have similar rules > on modifications. > > As I see it, the essential difference with the Queensland "approved > person" system is those who do the mods that require a blue plate are > frequently the same businesses as those that approve them. The end > result therefore depends to a large extent on the standards of those > who are engaged in the business of modifying vehicles. > >> >> Id like to see yearly testing for roadworthyness and a suitabel reduction in registration fees. Im >> mean to say the $655 I pay now for a 4Cylnder is absolute bloody theft and thats without any >> roadworthness factored in. > > There is absolutely no evidence I've ever seen that mandatory annual > inspections of private cars does anything for road safety. Mechanical > defects are a contributing factor in a very small proportion of > crashes resulting in death injury and the difference between those > states that have annual inspections and those that don't is SFA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ you have a cite of course?.......... > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: jonz on 12 May 2010 19:55 On 5/12/2010 8:17 PM, Noddy wrote: > " Scotty"<scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message > news:4bea49e1$0$12241$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > >> Id like to see yearly testing for roadworthyness and a suitabel reduction >> in registration fees. > > Don't hold your breath. > > NSW has had annual roadworthy inspections for years while Victoria hasn't, > and you'd have to go a *very* long way indeed to find *any* data to indicate > that cars in NSW are generally kept in better overall condition, or the fact > that they're inspected annually makes a poofteenth's difference to the road > toll. > > All annual inspections have done in NSW at least is add 100 bucks a year to > the overall running cost of a vehicle, and put licensed testers in a > position where they can guarantee their work. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ $100?.............my last pink slip (8 months ago) was $31.70... > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: Noddy on 12 May 2010 20:39 "John Tserkezis" <jt(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote in message news:4bead278$0$5421$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > It's scary. Was talking about how bad brakes can get with a mechanic > some time back. He said it was all bullshit, and you could have metal > against metal and still pass. > > Never mind about that godawful loud metallic grinding noise - as long > as the numbers are within spec, you're good. The regulations are fucked, and have been for years. I had a bloke knock me back for a rwc some years ago on an otherwise immaculate LH Torana because it had a tear in the seat material. The tear was about an inch long, and on the side squab seam at the piping. There was no exposed springs or anything nasty, and it was just normal wear and tear that didn't impact on the seat or it's safety in any way, yet it was an automatic fail. A trip to the local K-mart to buy a 10 buck seat cover to put over the seat to hide the tear saw it pass, yet the bloke never took a wheel off to even look at a brake. I just shook my head in amazement. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 12 May 2010 20:42 "jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message news:4beb3d9a(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > you have a cite of course?.......... No, I don't, and that's the point. Neither does the government, or any authority who claims that annual inspections are a useful tool. If you have, then please share it as I'd be delighted to see it. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 12 May 2010 20:42
"jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message news:4beb4000$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > $100?.............my last pink slip (8 months ago) was $31.70... We're talking about real cars here. Not anything made by Tonka. -- Regards, Noddy. |