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From: Lou on 12 Jun 2010 11:35

"Bill" <billnomailnospamx(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I don't know about vehicle sales, but I know with many retail businesses,
> they will double the price of what they paid for an item typically. So if
> they paid $10 for something, it will sell for $20.
>
> And they need to do this to pay their bills. Renting a building, paying
> employees, paying the electric bill, insurance, etc. and make a profit. If
> they can't cover their costs and make a profit, they will not be in
business
> very long!

A car generally is a big purchase, but other ongoing expenses add up as
well. I wonder if the original poster investigates the "dealer" cost for
groceries, or electricity, or housing before eating, turning on the lights,
or settling on a place to live?

>
> "Judy Zappacosta" wrote in message
> > Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
> >
> > I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value",
which
> > is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they) paid.
> >
> > I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me car quotes by
> > email if I gave them all my personal information.
> >
> > But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
> >
> > Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?
>
>


From: Rod Speed on 12 Jun 2010 14:33
Bill wrote:

> I don't know about vehicle sales,

Thats obvious.

> but I know with many retail businesses, they will double the price of what they paid for an item typically. So if they
> paid $10 for something, it will sell for $20.

Not with high value items like cars they dont.

I did once overhear the salesman ask his manager
what price he could offer me on a large top loading
washing machine when he said what their purchase
price was, I was shocked at how low the margin
was, single digit percentage of the retail price.

> And they need to do this to pay their bills. Renting a building,
> paying employees, paying the electric bill, insurance, etc. and make a profit. If they can't cover their costs and
> make a profit, they will not be in business very long!

Yes, but they dont need to charge twice what they paid with high value items like cars.

> "Judy Zappacosta" wrote in message
>> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
>>
>> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value",
>> which is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them
>> they) paid. I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me car
>> quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.
>>
>> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
>>
>> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?


From: Tegger on 12 Jun 2010 15:38
Judy Zappacosta <zappajNOSPAM(a)Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in
news:cf59a74a7089a80db03c32d825a0b241(a)tioat.net:

> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
>
> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value", which
> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they) paid.
>
> I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me car quotes by
> email if I gave them all my personal information.
>
> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
>
> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?




What does it matter? Just get on-the-road quotes from a few dealerships in
your area. Pick the lowest one. End of story.

--
Tegger
From: Rod Speed on 12 Jun 2010 17:01
Tegger wrote
> Judy Zappacosta zappajNOSPAM(a)Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid wrote

>> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?

>> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value", which
>> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they) paid.

>> I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me
>> car quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.

>> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?

>> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?

> What does it matter?

It does tell you the price they wont go below unless they are in a very
desperate situation financially and need to avoid going broke etc.

> Just get on-the-road quotes from a few dealerships
> in your area. Pick the lowest one. End of story.

Fraid not.


From: a real cheapskate on 12 Jun 2010 17:03
On Jun 12, 5:01�pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Tegger wrote
>
> > Judy Zappacosta zappajNOS...(a)Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid wrote
> >> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
> >> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value", which
> >> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they) paid.
> >> I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me
> >> car quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.
> >> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
> >> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?
> > What does it matter?
>
> It does tell you the price they wont go below unless they are in a very
> desperate situation financially and need to avoid going broke etc.
>
> > Just get on-the-road quotes from a few dealerships
> > in your area. Pick the lowest one. End of story.
>
> Fraid not.

dealer cost is intentially obscured by a lot of manufacturer specials
givebacks and advertising sharing.
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