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From: Toby on 11 Jul 2010 03:12 On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 04:11:40 GMT, Athol wrote: > D Walford <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote: > >> A red motor with a traumatic would have been a big improvement on a grey >> motor and hydromatic but that didn't happen till EH. > > Sadly, the EH retained the hydramatic. The traumatic didn't make > its debut until the HG. In fact, with the HQ program running late, > the traumatic was *the* new feature of the stop-gap HG. The later also stop-gap HT got the traumatic. -- Toby. Caveat Lector
From: Noddy on 11 Jul 2010 06:31 "Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote in message news:1278823588.599620(a)idlwebserver.idl.com.au... > I wonder how many here know about the alignment procedure for a > crash box. Apparently the various sections of the box were not > precision aligned with dowels, etc like later boxes, and if a box > was rebuilt and didn't select all gears properly, the process was > to put the car on a wheels-free hoist, loosen all the external > bolts on the trans and run it up to a specific speed (60MPH, I > think). While running at speed, with oil dripping from all of > the gaskets, the mechanic would then tighten all of the bolts in > sequence. :-) Boy, that sounds like fun...NOT :) > I've never been able to positively confirm when the ball joint > front end arrived. I've seen HDs with both kingpin and ball > joint front ends. I have too. > If they came in during the life of the model, > the front discs might have come in at the same time. They > certainly weren't available when the HD came out because there > were no kingpin disc brakes on Holdens. I may be wrong, but I seem to recall seeing some GMH accessory advertising for the HD Range that touted disc brakes, so perhaps the front end change came late in the HD run. I think the HD only ran for a year, so perhaps they intended the ball joint front end to go into the car all along but it wasn't quite ready when the car was released. > Likewise, the change > from spring loaded steering linkages to ball jointed inner tie- > rod ends probably occured during the life of the HD. Both were > major improvements, but ironically didn't help to extend the > life of the model. The criticism of the body killed it really, and in particular the sharp front guard corners. Personally I didn't think there was anything about them that was any more dangerous than anything else (I mean, if you were going to be hit by one hard enough for them to do damage a HR would likely do just as much damage) but Holden seemed to have a bit of a knee-jerk to the complaints. In a way I'm glad they did as I thought the HR was a much nicer looking car, but it's funny looking at it today to see how such a minor complaint brought about a whole new model. These days the car could be a complete lemon and it'll run it's full course :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 11 Jul 2010 08:15 "Toby" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:1iqblyy0z6et7$.1fvqe2kdgsbmt$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > I mean - an Omega Exterior with the whole shootin' match elsewhere would > be > a damm good chariot. > Dunno why, but I kinda like the thing in spartan trim, for some reason. Looks a bit plain for mine, but the Calais looks great. Not that I'm ever likely to want to own one, but the VE is a damn fine looking car. It has an air of 5 Series BMW about it. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: D Walford on 11 Jul 2010 10:00 On 11/07/2010 2:11 PM, Athol wrote: > D Walford<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote: > >> A red motor with a traumatic would have been a big improvement on a grey >> motor and hydromatic but that didn't happen till EH. > > Sadly, the EH retained the hydramatic. The traumatic didn't make > its debut until the HG. In fact, with the HQ program running late, > the traumatic was *the* new feature of the stop-gap HG. > When I typed that I wonder if it was correct but we can always rely on you to put us straight when it comes to old Holdens:-) Daryl
From: D Walford on 11 Jul 2010 10:02
On 11/07/2010 2:15 PM, Athol wrote: > D Walford<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote: > >> IMO the first Holden that had almost acceptable handling was the HK, it >> was certainly a big improvement over previous models. > > The ball joint front end in the HR, combined with the ball jointed > steering linkages, would rate as the first model of Holden to get to > almost acceptable handling IMO. > > Decent handling didn't arrive in Holdens until the RTS Toranas. > We had a HR and 2 HK's, I liked the HK's but hated the HR mainly because IMO the HK's steered and handled so much better. Daryl |