From: Noddy on

"Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I don't know about Vic, but up here in coastal Qld, Colourbond roofs after
> about 15 years, they tend to become "powdery" and need re-painting. Still,
> I went with colourbond again but went close to tiling it when drawing up
> the plans.

I currently live about 250m from the beach and have a Terracotta tiled roof
here, but there's a house up the street with a colourbond roof that's around
20 years old now and it's *just* starting to look a bit second hand. The
closer to the coast you live the worse they tend to fare.

We desined the house ourselves styling it very loosely on a traditional
Queenslander, and it was originally going to be a tin roof with
weatherboards purely for the look of it as I've never been a big fan of
bricks. However I talked myself out of it at the last minute as I couldn't
be bothered with the maintenance upkeep on weatherboards, and wasn't
interested in any of the plastic "no maintenance" boards around so we opted
for a decent looking styled brick that ties in with our colour sceme.

Here's a pic of the house with the roof finished taken last Sunday:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/dasgib/IMGP2114.jpg

The roof colour is Colourbond "Woodland Grey", and it's quite a lot darker
than it looks which is a bit annoying. It's actually the same colour as the
window frames, and it seems the reflective gloss of the coating combined
with the pitch of the roof makes it look quite a bit lighter. Had I known
that in advance I would have opted for my second colour choice which would
have been a thing called "Monument" which is an almost charcoal.

Here's a pic of the bricks taken last Wednesday when I went up to meet the
brickies:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/dasgib/IMGP2148.jpg

They're called Nuvo Mist by Boral, and they're actually a very pale grey.
The colour saturation of the camera makes them look very sandstone like in
the picture, and they also obviously haven't been washed down yet. The
mortar is supposed to be a light white'ish grey to add a bit of pizazz to
the bricks, but was still wet when this pic was taken. I'll get a better
idea of what it looks like when I go up tomorrow.

> Yep, that's exactly how it should be. The kind of probs we had was first
> the builder was going to tile the toilet when the whole house is timber
> floor (except of course the laundry, bathroom and ensuite. Then I noticed
> on the framing the doorway into the bathroom was a slider when it should
> have been a swinging door. Then the guy fitting the front door (a very
> very expensive feature door) drilled the hole in the wrong place for the
> door knob and they just filled the hole with timber, sanded it and
> varnished it. Looked ok for the first 3 months. Then the electrician when
> putting the coach lights around the home had two of them on the wrong line
> of bricks. Then the painter put the Woodmans on the verandahs straightaway
> so he could be paid instead of waiting 6months as recommended for the
> tannum to come out of the timber. I could go on but all I can advise you
> is don't be afraid to check on everything, no matter how happy you are
> atm.

Already got that covered, thanks.

A good friend of mine is a private inspector who checks new and used houses
for both building code compliance and strucural integrity and he's already
been out to check on the place at framing stage. Fortunately for us he's
happy to report that in his almost 20 years in the caper it was one of the
best frames he's ever seen with lots of little extra's like lintels over
every opening regardless of the size and extra gussets and bracings in
places where they're not required to do so.

The builder is a mob called G.J Gardiner who are a franchise outlet that
operate all over the country (they actually started in New Zealand), but the
individual office I'm dealing with is based in Geelong. They're a regional
specialist and would be considered a low volume builder compared to the big
boys like Metricon, Henley and the like, but then they have their regular
tradies who have been working for them for many years and that's always a
good sign.

Metricon built a 2 story house right across the street from where I
currently live about 8 years ago, and when the pre-fabed frame got dropped
off a bloke pulled up shortly after in a HJ Holden station wagon with a drop
saw, a hammer and a nailbag to put it up. My old man was still alive then
and as he'd been in the building game for almost 50 years he watched this
bloke scratch his head for a while before going across the road to ask what
he was doing. Apparently this bloke was a chippy but had never done framing
work before in his life and he'd just started working for the company the
week before as he needed the job.

As expected the frame went up looking like something Jerry Lewis put
together, and this was some poor bloke's 350 thousand dollar house.

> Yep, the shed must come first as what happened here, so you can store the
> goodies.

There's a covenant on my land that states no outbuildings are supposed to be
constructed until the house construction is subtancially under way. Why
that's the case is beyng me as it's not exactly the middle of Toorak, and
it's not even a through area where passing citizenry have to put up with an
eyesore, but that's what the section 32 states. When I called the council
and asked what actually constitues "substancially under way" the response
was that the house slab had to be down. The reasons behind this, according
to the council, was that they didn't want the landscape littered with sheds
that people were living in while they took their time to build their houses.

That was fine with me as I'm building the shed as an owner builder and to
save some money with the council I put the house and shed on the one
planning permit, but the funny thing is that if you drive around the area
there's a bunch of large sheds dotted around the landscape with houses next
to them in various stages of construction, and each shed has a patio, a
carport and an evaporative cooler poking out of it's roof :)

> I can understand that. Being involved in Real Estate myself, I can tell
> you most purchases won't like to do that. Usually, they want to move in
> ASAP. Then again Melbournians mighten't be as impatient as up here. You
> may find it could be a turnoff for some prospects.

I've had a couple of offers on the house thus far, and the people who've
made them have also stated that they're happy for a 120 day settlement if
we'd like it. The offers are a little short of the target price at the
moment so I've told them thanks, but no thanks, but I also don't want to
stretch things out that far if I can avoid it. The house and shed are
costing close to 500 large to build and I'm getting close to the thin end of
my cash reserves as it is, and I really don't want to wait that long for
settlement to take place. If I can get an early release of the deposit once
I sell this place under the section 27 laws that'd be great, as it'll mean I
can get a lot of extra stuff like decks and paving done right away, but it's
up to the purchaser to release that money and they don't have any obligation
to do so.

If they don't, I'll just have to wait until settlement as I'd prefer to
spend the least amount of time in the mud as possible.

> Had that happen here too before they started on this place as they used my
> property to store the materials and made a horrible mess of the driveway.
> The worst part was they didn't even ask permission.

I don't have any problems with them doing that, and my new neighbour across
the road is a decent bloke who has offered to store stuff at his place if
need be. Most of the heavy truck stuff is done now anyway, and about the
only big load left now is the plaster sheets which will be on a tray truck.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


From: Deevo on
Probably an S series Valliant. Nice and collectable enough while still
being a bit unusual.
--
Deevo
Geraldton Western Australia


From: D Walford on
On 6/06/2010 9:01 AM, st3ph3nm wrote:

> I can't stress strongly enough how important a car club is as a source
> of information& parts. IMHO, you'd be mad not to join the relevant
> marque car club if you intend to purchase an old classic. Yes, there
> will be politics. Yes, you'll get people annoying you. You don't
> have to talk to people you don't like, but in any group of people
> you'll find like minded mad bastards who will bend over backwards to
> help you. I've had a number of unobtainium parts just given to me
> over the years by friendly club members who had something "lying
> around, and you need it more than I do".

Very true, when I finally got the 4AGZE in my sons AE86 running I found
that the supercharger had an internal oil leak so it needed new seals.
I knew a few blokes who had Elfin Clubmans fitted with ZE's so I asked
them if they how to replace the seals, in the end one of them just said
he had a couple of spare superchargers and as he had converted his
engine to turbo so he just gave me one which has worked perfectly.
He could have easily sold it to me for $300 but he didn't care about the
money:-)


Daryl
From: D Walford on
On 6/06/2010 12:23 PM, James wrote:

>
> I would imagine the most difficult part would be to get the thing to sit
> flat again, since the weight over the front would be dramatically reduced
> with a modern engine / trans (the original is f*&king heavy). Given the
> suspension is linked front to rear the only way would be to put smaller dia.
> bags in the front or change the pivot point somehow. Actually I'm pretty
> sure in the rally cars they had a hydraulic hand pump for the navigator to
> change the suspension firmness / height, don't know whether they did
> anything with the front/rear connection though.

I'm not 100% sure but couldn't you just let some of the fluid out?
I blew a rear displacer on mine and the whole car dropped to the bump stops.
I know someone who still has one of the original pumps for the
hydrolastic suspension so it wouldn't be difficult to experiment.


Daryl
From: Milton on

"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c0a025f$0$28642$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>
>> I don't know about Vic, but up here in coastal Qld, Colourbond roofs
>> after about 15 years, they tend to become "powdery" and need re-painting.
>> Still, I went with colourbond again but went close to tiling it when
>> drawing up the plans.
>
> I currently live about 250m from the beach and have a Terracotta tiled
> roof here, but there's a house up the street with a colourbond roof that's
> around 20 years old now and it's *just* starting to look a bit second
> hand. The closer to the coast you live the worse they tend to fare.

That's the same distance we're from the beach. Beach one side, lake the
other with natural bush close by right in the middle of town. No doubt that
will change one day. We went with the white roof because of the summer heat
up here.

7 years ago, we paid $65,000 for the block of 653sqm and then 12 months
later, the builder $220,000 to build but I provided all the special fittings
like the old fashioned gold toggle switches on timber blocks. 2 Claw foot
baths with the exposed plumbing of brass pipes and old shower heads over the
top, a fire place that we have never used but looks impressive with the
style of house etc etc. It has recently been valued at 5.5mil. even in this
climate of bad real estate up here.
>
> We desined the house ourselves styling it very loosely on a traditional
> Queenslander, and it was originally going to be a tin roof with
> weatherboards purely for the look of it as I've never been a big fan of
> bricks. However I talked myself out of it at the last minute as I couldn't
> be bothered with the maintenance upkeep on weatherboards, and wasn't
> interested in any of the plastic "no maintenance" boards around so we
> opted for a decent looking styled brick that ties in with our colour
> sceme.

Exactly what I did for the same reason. Maintenance is bad enough as it is
without having to worry about house painting. Our bricks are also made by
Boral and are called La Trobe designed to give the old uneven look. The home
is also a low block (on 900mm stumps) with a verandah 85% the way around.
>
> Here's a pic of the house with the roof finished taken last Sunday:
> http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/dasgib/IMGP2114.jpg
>
> The roof colour is Colourbond "Woodland Grey", and it's quite a lot darker
> than it looks which is a bit annoying. It's actually the same colour as
> the window frames, and it seems the reflective gloss of the coating
> combined with the pitch of the roof makes it look quite a bit lighter. Had
> I known that in advance I would have opted for my second colour choice
> which would have been a thing called "Monument" which is an almost
> charcoal.
>
> Here's a pic of the bricks taken last Wednesday when I went up to meet the
> brickies:
> http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/dasgib/IMGP2148.jpg

Nice. Looks like you might be putting a verandah around it? If you are and
it's a timber deck, make sure the painter doesn't coat it for 6 months until
the tannum comes out of the timber or you will have the same trouble we
did.
>
> They're called Nuvo Mist by Boral, and they're actually a very pale grey.
> The colour saturation of the camera makes them look very sandstone like in
> the picture, and they also obviously haven't been washed down yet. The
> mortar is supposed to be a light white'ish grey to add a bit of pizazz to
> the bricks, but was still wet when this pic was taken. I'll get a better
> idea of what it looks like when I go up tomorrow.
>
>> Yep, that's exactly how it should be. The kind of probs we had was first
>> the builder was going to tile the toilet when the whole house is timber
>> floor (except of course the laundry, bathroom and ensuite. Then I noticed
>> on the framing the doorway into the bathroom was a slider when it should
>> have been a swinging door. Then the guy fitting the front door (a very
>> very expensive feature door) drilled the hole in the wrong place for the
>> door knob and they just filled the hole with timber, sanded it and
>> varnished it. Looked ok for the first 3 months. Then the electrician when
>> putting the coach lights around the home had two of them on the wrong
>> line of bricks. Then the painter put the Woodmans on the verandahs
>> straightaway so he could be paid instead of waiting 6months as
>> recommended for the tannum to come out of the timber. I could go on but
>> all I can advise you is don't be afraid to check on everything, no matter
>> how happy you are atm.
>
> Already got that covered, thanks.
>
> A good friend of mine is a private inspector who checks new and used
> houses for both building code compliance and strucural integrity and he's
> already been out to check on the place at framing stage. Fortunately for
> us he's happy to report that in his almost 20 years in the caper it was
> one of the best frames he's ever seen with lots of little extra's like
> lintels over every opening regardless of the size and extra gussets and
> bracings in places where they're not required to do so.

What can I say, you should be well and truly looked after.......that's
unless you pi**ed him off at some stage and now it's payback time? ; )
>
> The builder is a mob called G.J Gardiner who are a franchise outlet that
> operate all over the country (they actually started in New Zealand), but
> the individual office I'm dealing with is based in Geelong. They're a
> regional specialist and would be considered a low volume builder compared
> to the big boys like Metricon, Henley and the like, but then they have
> their regular tradies who have been working for them for many years and
> that's always a good sign.

I'm sure GJ Gardner some time ago went bust up here in Qld but I notice they
are back up and running again.
>
> Metricon built a 2 story house right across the street from where I
> currently live about 8 years ago, and when the pre-fabed frame got dropped
> off a bloke pulled up shortly after in a HJ Holden station wagon with a
> drop saw, a hammer and a nailbag to put it up. My old man was still alive
> then and as he'd been in the building game for almost 50 years he watched
> this bloke scratch his head for a while before going across the road to
> ask what he was doing. Apparently this bloke was a chippy but had never
> done framing work before in his life and he'd just started working for the
> company the week before as he needed the job.
>
> As expected the frame went up looking like something Jerry Lewis put
> together, and this was some poor bloke's 350 thousand dollar house.
>
>> Yep, the shed must come first as what happened here, so you can store the
>> goodies.
>
> There's a covenant on my land that states no outbuildings are supposed to
> be constructed until the house construction is subtancially under way. Why
> that's the case is beyng me as it's not exactly the middle of Toorak, and
> it's not even a through area where passing citizenry have to put up with
> an eyesore, but that's what the section 32 states. When I called the
> council and asked what actually constitues "substancially under way" the
> response was that the house slab had to be down. The reasons behind this,
> according to the council, was that they didn't want the landscape littered
> with sheds that people were living in while they took their time to build
> their houses.
>
> That was fine with me as I'm building the shed as an owner builder and to
> save some money with the council I put the house and shed on the one
> planning permit, but the funny thing is that if you drive around the area
> there's a bunch of large sheds dotted around the landscape with houses
> next to them in various stages of construction, and each shed has a patio,
> a carport and an evaporative cooler poking out of it's roof :)

LOL...They appear to be stopping that behaviour everywhere. As a matter of
fact the Council here have been making it difficult to put any garage on
land in the city, house already built or not.

>> I can understand that. Being involved in Real Estate myself, I can tell
>> you most purchases won't like to do that. Usually, they want to move in
>> ASAP. Then again Melbournians mighten't be as impatient as up here. You
>> may find it could be a turnoff for some prospects.
>
> I've had a couple of offers on the house thus far, and the people who've
> made them have also stated that they're happy for a 120 day settlement if
> we'd like it. The offers are a little short of the target price at the
> moment so I've told them thanks, but no thanks, but I also don't want to
> stretch things out that far if I can avoid it. The house and shed are
> costing close to 500 large to build and I'm getting close to the thin end
> of my cash reserves as it is, and I really don't want to wait that long
> for settlement to take place. If I can get an early release of the deposit
> once I sell this place under the section 27 laws that'd be great, as it'll
> mean I can get a lot of extra stuff like decks and paving done right away,
> but it's up to the purchaser to release that money and they don't have any
> obligation to do so.
>
> If they don't, I'll just have to wait until settlement as I'd prefer to
> spend the least amount of time in the mud as possible.

That's a lot of stash. Obiously it's a lot more expensive to build in
Melbourne than regional Qld. Just from your images (and don't take this the
wrong way) but you may get that built up here including a standard 6mx6m
shed for around the 350 grand mark. Perhaps you are having expensive
fittings as well? Without checking your plans, I may be way off the mark.
>
>> Had that happen here too before they started on this place as they used
>> my property to store the materials and made a horrible mess of the
>> driveway. The worst part was they didn't even ask permission.
>
> I don't have any problems with them doing that, and my new neighbour
> across the road is a decent bloke who has offered to store stuff at his
> place if need be. Most of the heavy truck stuff is done now anyway, and
> about the only big load left now is the plaster sheets which will be on a
> tray truck.
>
My mistake, I omitted to say it was the builder who was building the
neighbours house was using my land to store all his gear on as well as using
it for access for all the heavy gear. Like to see more pics of your home as
the progress continues.

Regards

Milton

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