From: jonz on 8 Jun 2010 04:44 On 6/8/2010 5:29 PM, Noddy wrote: > " Scotty"<scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message > news:4c0debb9$0$17172$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > >> Why not dig a hole and bury it !? > > Now, why didn't I think of that? > > Maybe because I'm not Jonz :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ helps.......:) > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: D Walford on 8 Jun 2010 09:29 On 8/06/2010 10:54 PM, atec7 7 > wrote: >> According to my nephew who recently got his CEC accreditation even the >> DC has to be done by a sparkie > > Wrong > long as it's uner 50v it doesn't being elv , a cabler can do this bit > and can even drag the ac long as the sparky approves it > Under 50v? Lots of panels exceed that on their own and as soon as you connect a few in series the system voltage will be a hell of lot higher than 50v. The most common panel we install is 90v and can be either in series of 3, 4 or 5, system voltages between 270-450vdc. > but I still do it as do the rest of our >> panel installers, we now take photos of our DC wiring before we put >> the panels so we have proof the DC was done properly, >> The sparkies do the final connections to the DC isolator on the roof >> and they also check the panel DC before its plugged in. > "advert snipped " It couldn't be an ad because I didn't mention the company name but his main customer is the biggest solar company in the country with about 20% of the market. >> plenty of practise and IMO do an excellent job. >> >>> I have installed a number of systems which passed connection and >>> completion by an approved person >> >> Unless the rules are very different in Qld you must be a "Licensed >> Electrical Contractor" or find one who is willing to sign off on any >> work you did. > easy to buy as I said You buy electricians, sounds naughty to me:-) Daryl
From: atec7 7 ""atec77" on 8 Jun 2010 10:14 D Walford wrote: > On 8/06/2010 10:54 PM, atec7 7 > wrote: > >>> According to my nephew who recently got his CEC accreditation even the >>> DC has to be done by a sparkie >> >> Wrong >> long as it's uner 50v it doesn't being elv , a cabler can do this bit >> and can even drag the ac long as the sparky approves it >> > > Under 50v? I have a legal wind genny running overhead , it's a more common option here , although the dc voltage can be over come by a short course to allow the work and then inspetion or under supervision ( thats easy to do as you can guess) > Lots of panels exceed that on their own and as soon as you connect a few > in series the system voltage will be a hell of lot higher than 50v. > The most common panel we install is 90v and can be either in series of > 3, 4 or 5, system voltages between 270-450vdc. > >> but I still do it as do the rest of our >>> panel installers, we now take photos of our DC wiring before we put >>> the panels so we have proof the DC was done properly, >>> The sparkies do the final connections to the DC isolator on the roof >>> and they also check the panel DC before its plugged in. >> "advert snipped " > > It couldn't be an ad because I didn't mention the company name but his > main customer is the biggest solar company in the country with about 20% > of the market. > >>> plenty of practise and IMO do an excellent job. >>> >>>> I have installed a number of systems which passed connection and >>>> completion by an approved person >>> >>> Unless the rules are very different in Qld you must be a "Licensed >>> Electrical Contractor" or find one who is willing to sign off on any >>> work you did. >> easy to buy as I said > > You buy electricians, sounds naughty to me:-) > That's called paying their wage like I said it aint rocket science > > Daryl
From: Scotty on 9 Jun 2010 04:37 "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message news:huleiq$au4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... : > According to my nephew who recently got his CEC accreditation even the : > DC has to be done by a sparkie : : Wrong : long as it's uner 50v it doesn't being elv , a cabler can do this bit : and can even drag the ac long as the sparky approves it Umm, as long as the LV and ELV is suitably segregated and carried out in a tradesman like manner. AS3000 still applies for ELV. : : but I still do it as do the rest of our : > panel installers, we now take photos of our DC wiring before we put the : > panels so we have proof the DC was done properly, : > The sparkies do the final connections to the DC isolator on the roof and : > they also check the panel DC before its plugged in. : "advert snipped " : > plenty of practise and IMO do an excellent job. : > : >> I have installed a number of systems which passed connection and : >> completion by an approved person : > : > Unless the rules are very different in Qld you must be a "Licensed : > Electrical Contractor" or find one who is willing to sign off on any : > work you did. Thats no problem. Thats a bit of paper I already hold ;o) ......Well its plastic but you get my drift. : easy to buy as I said : > : > : > Daryl
From: Scotty on 9 Jun 2010 04:40
"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4c0e45fb$0$14135$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... : On 8/06/2010 10:54 PM, atec7 7 > wrote: : : >> According to my nephew who recently got his CEC accreditation even the : >> DC has to be done by a sparkie : > : > Wrong : > long as it's uner 50v it doesn't being elv , a cabler can do this bit : > and can even drag the ac long as the sparky approves it : > : : Under 50v? : Lots of panels exceed that on their own and as soon as you connect a few : in series the system voltage will be a hell of lot higher than 50v. : The most common panel we install is 90v and can be either in series of : 3, 4 or 5, system voltages between 270-450vdc. LV is concidered aything over 50VDC and 47.5 VAC, Hmm not 100% on the AC but I think thats pretty close. : : > but I still do it as do the rest of our : >> panel installers, we now take photos of our DC wiring before we put : >> the panels so we have proof the DC was done properly, : >> The sparkies do the final connections to the DC isolator on the roof : >> and they also check the panel DC before its plugged in. : > "advert snipped " : : It couldn't be an ad because I didn't mention the company name but his : main customer is the biggest solar company in the country with about 20% : of the market. : : >> plenty of practise and IMO do an excellent job. : >> : >>> I have installed a number of systems which passed connection and : >>> completion by an approved person : >> : >> Unless the rules are very different in Qld you must be a "Licensed : >> Electrical Contractor" or find one who is willing to sign off on any : >> work you did. : > easy to buy as I said : : You buy electricians, sounds naughty to me:-) He never said what he was buying them for, maybe he fired them from the back of the "Wickham"????? He just asks them if they can remove his shorts and install a hotpoint in his passage! : : : Daryl |