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From: jonz on 8 Sep 2009 21:35 Noddy wrote: > <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message > news:mbhca51bk0l29k1se8bpi722ncfhpo4i09(a)4ax.com... > >> Damn....next time you read a substantiated fairy tale, be sure to note >> it! > > Do beg my pardon, but what part was substantiated? :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Whhhhoooosssssshhhhh............ > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: jonz on 8 Sep 2009 22:26 Noddy wrote: > <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message > news:a5dba5dl5e5vcttfoqs69jebn20md87a4o(a)4ax.com... > >> I keep forgetting....You have no friends!............... > > Avoidance noted. > >> I was specifically talking about Minis...NOT English cars in general! > > Last time I checked, the Mini very definitely was an English car. > >> Ahh the diversion...... > > You'd know all about that. Just look at this bullshit you posted below... > >> And yes, I do have a photo or two of the car in >> her silver( Ford colour, can't recall) and Vermillion Fire paint. > > I didn't ask you if you had a picture of the *car* Oz. I know what Mini's > look like. I asked if you had a picture of the *dry-sump system* as I'd > really like to see it. True to form, you've proved yourself a world class > bullshit artist yet again by completely side-stepping the question. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ what`s so unusual about dry sump??.....check out :"anatomy of the works mini" by Brian Moylan......in particular the reference to dry sumping...a system devised by Danny Richmond............. > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: Noddy on 8 Sep 2009 23:01 "jonz" <fj40(a)diesel.com> wrote in message news:4aa7126b$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > what`s so unusual about dry sump??..... Nothing. I used to make them for some people, and I never said such a system was impossible. I was questioning why Oz would *want* to resort to such a system on a complex engine/transmission arrangement when there are *far* easier means of solving the problems he claimed he had. You're probably not smart enough to have figured Oz out by now, but everything he says has a "believability factor" of zilch and it's ot just me who thinks so. Still, if you want to lap his bullshit up like warm custard then knock yourself out pal. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: jonz on 8 Sep 2009 23:38 Noddy wrote: > "jonz" <fj40(a)diesel.com> wrote in message > news:4aa7126b$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > >> what`s so unusual about dry sump??..... > > Nothing. I used to make them for some people, and I never said such a system > was impossible. > > I was questioning why Oz would *want* to resort to such a system on a > complex engine/transmission arrangement when there are *far* easier means of > solving the problems he claimed he had. > > You're probably not smart enough to have figured Oz out by now, but > everything he says has a "believability factor" of zilch and it's ot just me > who thinks so. Still, if you want to lap his bullshit up like warm custard > then knock yourself out pal. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ since you found it necessary to clip my post and change it`s context,...here it is again.... what`s so unusual about dry sump??.....check out :"anatomy of the works mini" by Brian Moylan......in particular the reference to dry sumping...a system devised by Danny Richmond............. this discussion has been about *mini* dry sumping....with you and the peanut gallery saying can`t be done, because the diff and gearbox are in the sump....iirc, Oz was racing the mini? dry sumping gets rid of oil surge, and can give four bhp increase since you`re not dragging moving parts thru a gallon of oil..so why *would`nt* you do it?.... > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: Noddy on 9 Sep 2009 05:38
"jonz" <fj40(a)diesel.com> wrote in message news:4aa76284$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > "ease"? please explain?............ Relative compared to fabricating a dry-sump system. Oz's original claims where that he had two basic problems: Surge during cornering, and excessive oil at the top of the engine from problems relating to drainage. Presumably also from the cornering but he never actually said, but if it was he mist have been spending a *lot* of time going around corners. Oil surge issues can be solved by running an effective oil pickup and baffling, and given that some of the hardest running Mini's in the world have sufficed with such arrangements it's difficult to imagine why he couldn't, and oil flooding in the top of the engine is a problem best eliminated by restricting the amount oil getting up there in the first place. The only reason you need oil up top is to lubricate the rocker arms and valve stems, and the bulk of the oiling is for the rocker arms as the valve stems need very little. The best solution by far is to rollerise the rocker gear and do away with the need lubricate them with large volumes of oil. Fitting roller rockers would allow you to restrict the flow of oil to the top end to the absolute minimum needed to keep the valve stems happy, which by comparison to the amount of oil the standard shaft mounted rockers need to keep them happy is a mere trickle which would have seen his top end oil problems eliminated. He's never said when it was that he was allegedly racing Mini's, and while roller rockers for A series engines are available today they may not have been when he was (and they certainly weren't years ago when I was playing around with them). However they've certainly been around for other applications for a very long time, and even if you had to custom make a set that would have been *far* easier than making a working dry-sump system for such an engine/car combo. Even if he didn't want to run rollerised rocker gear you can restrict the flow of oil to the top of the engine by a considerable margin as the engines tend to pump *way* more oil upstairs than they actually need, and it's a problem compounded by high volume oil pumps. A simple "jet" in the oil gallery under one of the rocker posts would most likely have solved his problems. -- Regards, Noddy. |