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From: XR8 Sprintless on 18 Sep 2009 09:52 OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:08:35 +1000, XR8 Sprintless > <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:30:20 +1000, XR8 Sprintless >>> <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:50:22 +1000, XR8 Sprintless >>>>> <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Weren't you killfiling me? >>>>>> You'd love that wouldn't you. >>>>> Hey...I didn't twist your arm, Goose! >>>>> >>>> Interesting new sig you have there. Finally signing your own name. >>> Just out of kindy Goose? >>> >> Are you? We guessed as much. > > You're embarassing yourself Dickless! > You're the one who's stupid enough to keep replying! You figure it out. I'm just baiting a hook and seeing if I get a bite. Mind you I think for everyone's sake that you have reached Bozo bin status. Your compulsive lying and twisting of arguments is beyond the scale of maximum stupidity. BTW the article about the cars your referred to was in the third person, recollecting information that was from their memory. I would not care to cite it as an reliable source of genuine information.
From: Noddy on 18 Sep 2009 11:53 <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message news:0c07b59jrtbp0aj8k1hkmqlg8sfasqvf8c(a)4ax.com... > MoWoG..Morris Wolseley Garages. > They were the BMC tuners specialising in mostly MGs. > Mowog was cast into BMC heads (including the original cast iron 8 > port) There is no difinitive evidence as to exactly what "MoWoG" stood for, as there's a great deal of myth and old wive's surrounding the term. One popular theory is that it stood for "Morris-Wolseley Garages" after the Morris Car Company purchased Wolseley, in a similar theme others believe it stood for "Morris Wolseley Group". Another theory is that it stood for "Morris Works Group" and yet another is that it the term was an acronym for the merger of Morris, Wolseley and MG, with the "o's" thrown in between the M, W & G by someone to make up something that resembled a "word" that could then be used as a company symbol. This last theory probably is the most likely as once Morris, Wolseley and MG were combined under the one roof, their engines and chassis numbers were prefixed by "M" for Morris, "W" for Wolseley and "G" for MG. Morris, Wolseley and MG (along with Riley) were part of the Nuffield Corporation until they merged with the Austin Motor Company in 1952 to become the British Motor Corporation, or BMC. From that point on, components became "standardised" across the range of various BMC makes and models and shared similar features. Most of the design work for all the various models was carried out in Cowley at Morris's old headquarters, and most of the various component casting and forging was done at the Morris foundry in Coventry. The BMC "Rosette" symbol replaced the "MoWoG" term as the company symbol on everything with the exception of parts produced at the Coventyr foundry, and the reason for this seems to be nothing other than romantic. The foundry managers decided they'd prefer to keep the existing "MoWoG" term in use as part of their "identity", and convinced the head of BMC that it would be too difficult to cast the BMC "Rosette" into their various parts as head office wanted them to do. As a result, the "MoWoG" term could be found cast into anything made for just about any British car long after the term ceased to mean anything to anyone. The part of your spin on the "MoWoG" history that differs from the *real* one is that Morris-Wolseley Garages were *not* "tuners" for BMC, as the company didn't exist by the time BMC was formed. All of the deisgn work for everything in the BMC stable was done in one centralised location, and all of the heavy foundry work done in another with no relevance to the "MoWoG" term found on many BMC parts other than it being a "traditional" carry over. To get back to your comments about the "original cast iron crossflow head", you posted a link to a page where the author made a comment about a "Mowog style" crossflow head, and that's about as vague as you can be while still managing to say something. It doesn't identify the head in any way, and given that there have been at least half a dozen different types of crossflow heads made by private companies for the A series engine that absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the factory it could have been *any* one of them. The factory "Special Tuning" literature doesn't mention *any* crossflow head other than the Arden head, and given that you've acknowledged that this is the head you yourself used it's not exactlty clear what your point about this particular cast iron head actually is other than to shift focus away from details of your "Mini racing" story that you obviously can't or won't address. > You really need to stick to something you know... Lol :) Sometimes the irony is so thick around here you couldn't drive a Tiger Tank through it :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: OzOne on 18 Sep 2009 17:33 On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:52:03 +1000, XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:08:35 +1000, XR8 Sprintless >> <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:30:20 +1000, XR8 Sprintless >>>> <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:50:22 +1000, XR8 Sprintless >>>>>> <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Weren't you killfiling me? >>>>>>> You'd love that wouldn't you. >>>>>> Hey...I didn't twist your arm, Goose! >>>>>> >>>>> Interesting new sig you have there. Finally signing your own name. >>>> Just out of kindy Goose? >>>> >>> Are you? We guessed as much. >> >> You're embarassing yourself Dickless! >> > >You're the one who's stupid enough to keep replying! You figure it out. >I'm just baiting a hook and seeing if I get a bite. Mind you I think for >everyone's sake that you have reached Bozo bin status. Your compulsive >lying and twisting of arguments is beyond the scale of maximum >stupidity. BTW the article about the cars your referred to was in the >third person, recollecting information that was from their memory. I >would not care to cite it as an reliable source of genuine information. > Tissues? OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: OzOne on 18 Sep 2009 17:38 On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:53:10 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote: > ><OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message >news:0c07b59jrtbp0aj8k1hkmqlg8sfasqvf8c(a)4ax.com... > >> MoWoG..Morris Wolseley Garages. >> They were the BMC tuners specialising in mostly MGs. >> Mowog was cast into BMC heads (including the original cast iron 8 >> port) > >There is no difinitive evidence as to exactly what "MoWoG" stood for, as >there's a great deal of myth and old wive's surrounding the term. > >One popular theory is that it stood for "Morris-Wolseley Garages" after the >Morris Car Company purchased Wolseley, in a similar theme others believe it >stood for "Morris Wolseley Group". Another theory is that it stood for >"Morris Works Group" and yet another is that it the term was an acronym for >the merger of Morris, Wolseley and MG, with the "o's" thrown in between the >M, W & G by someone to make up something that resembled a "word" that could >then be used as a company symbol. This last theory probably is the most >likely as once Morris, Wolseley and MG were combined under the one roof, >their engines and chassis numbers were prefixed by "M" for Morris, "W" for >Wolseley and "G" for MG. > >Morris, Wolseley and MG (along with Riley) were part of the Nuffield >Corporation until they merged with the Austin Motor Company in 1952 to >become the British Motor Corporation, or BMC. > >From that point on, components became "standardised" across the range of >various BMC makes and models and shared similar features. Most of the design >work for all the various models was carried out in Cowley at Morris's old >headquarters, and most of the various component casting and forging was done >at the Morris foundry in Coventry. The BMC "Rosette" symbol replaced the >"MoWoG" term as the company symbol on everything with the exception of parts >produced at the Coventyr foundry, and the reason for this seems to be >nothing other than romantic. The foundry managers decided they'd prefer to >keep the existing "MoWoG" term in use as part of their "identity", and >convinced the head of BMC that it would be too difficult to cast the BMC >"Rosette" into their various parts as head office wanted them to do. > >As a result, the "MoWoG" term could be found cast into anything made for >just about any British car long after the term ceased to mean anything to >anyone. > >The part of your spin on the "MoWoG" history that differs from the *real* >one is that Morris-Wolseley Garages were *not* "tuners" for BMC, as the >company didn't exist by the time BMC was formed. All of the deisgn work for >everything in the BMC stable was done in one centralised location, and all >of the heavy foundry work done in another with no relevance to the "MoWoG" >term found on many BMC parts other than it being a "traditional" carry over. > >To get back to your comments about the "original cast iron crossflow head", >you posted a link to a page where the author made a comment about a "Mowog >style" crossflow head, and that's about as vague as you can be while still >managing to say something. It doesn't identify the head in any way, and >given that there have been at least half a dozen different types of >crossflow heads made by private companies for the A series engine that >absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the factory it could have been >*any* one of them. > >The factory "Special Tuning" literature doesn't mention *any* crossflow head >other than the Arden head, and given that you've acknowledged that this is >the head you yourself used it's not exactlty clear what your point about >this particular cast iron head actually is other than to shift focus away >from details of your "Mini racing" story that you obviously can't or won't >address. > >> You really need to stick to something you know... > >Lol :) > >Sometimes the irony is so thick around here you couldn't drive a Tiger Tank >through it :) More words Nod...are you beginning to notice that you can't Google everything? Sometimes uou just had to be there! OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: OzOne on 18 Sep 2009 17:42
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:06:52 +1000, "Atheist Chaplain" <abused(a)cia.gov> wrote: >Game, Set, Match!!! >Thank you ball boys, Thank you Umpires :-) > >let the squirming commence, I'm sure Ozone won't let this stand and I'm sure >he is weaseling away at Google trying to find a way to shift the goal posts >yet again :-) Hardly worth a reply....but you'd feel neglected without one OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |