Which pomme car did you own *and* like?
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From: Jason James on 4 Sep 2009 20:02 "John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message news:ct23a5hq7rlpielrde3fh5ia62tv5k2egs(a)4ax.com... >D Walford wrote: >>John_H wrote: >>> >>> You really should consider Jaguar in the context of their time. >> >>I think their drive ability is what made them popular in their day, >>nothing made here or in the US can touch them in that regard. >>Too bad they didn't keep up with the times and improve build quality >>over time like the Japs did. > > The Japs got a fresh start after WW2, the poms struggled on with a > manufacturing system they'd established back in the days of the > industrial revolution. Engineering expertise was never the problem > (they had among the World's best) but the rest of the system was > already stuffed. They would've been annihilated in the war if it > weren't for American aid. Aye,..it wasn't untill early 1945 that the pommes built a tank which wasn't just cannon-fodder for the Tigers (in all it's variants). By then the Sherman had done all the work,...despite it being pretty hopeless up against the last 2 models of Tigers. "Vat is dat?" "It's a King-Tiger comrade,..I think we.....!!BOOOM!! b e tt er take evassiiiii.......aaaction spplt" Jason > British Leyland (formed in1968) was the very lasp gasp of British car > manufacturing, as well as a quantum leap backwards in quality > standards. > > At the time of its introduction (1949 IIRC) the cammy Jag was the most > advanced car engine design on the planet IMHO. My choice for the > ultimate post war British classic saloon would've been the MkII 3.8S. > > The only thing of any consequence that remained of Jaguar under BLMC > was the styling (and the XJ6 is still hard to beat). > > -- > John H
From: Noddy on 4 Sep 2009 20:08 "PhilD" <replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au> wrote in message news:Mg9om.17376$ze1.13960(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Never had a power problem. 4v heads for outright power OK but 2v heads > performed quite well and could still make good numbers with the right > combination of cam/carby/manifold/extractors/exhaust/ignition. Long > distance cruising wasn't a problem ;-) I'm sure it wasn't. > Sarcasm mode on: > As to your comment about being stuck under your bumper, isn't that an > admission that you wouldn't have been able to overtake me and could only > keep up by drafting? > Sarcasm mode off: Note quite. The Torana would be so much quicker than your Falcon the driver would be unlikely to steer around it and end up humping the bootlid :) > I went to Bathurst and saw racing between factory prepared vehicles in > that era, there was generally no performance relationship between them and > the road going versions the public bought. It depends on what class of racing you're talking about. Series Production ran up until the end of the 1972 season, and the cars had to be run pretty much out of the box. The only modifications allowed were relatively minor and pretty much limited to tunning, and a great many of the cars that were raced by low budget teams and privateers in those days were actually road registered and driven to and from the track. As a result the perfomance of the cars was indicative of what they were capable of off the showroom floor if you were prepared to cane them flat out. In 1973 they changed to Improved Production rules which allowed a *lot* of changes which saw the things become dedicated racing cars, where they no longer had anything in common with the "man in the street" version with their performance beyind way beyond that of what the standard factory versions were capable of. > I left that argument to others and there was no shortage of altercations > from either the GMH and Ford diehards trying to prove otherwise. No doubt. > Sometimes it was close to deaths happening as one or the other pressed > their allegiance too far. There was as much entertainment in McPhillamy Pk > as on the track, so long as you didn't get dragged in to it. XU1's won on > the track, too often, but the reality was that one would not have suited > my getting to work needs of that time (country commuting on wide open > roads on Monday and Friday with 4 bodies and suitcases). They weren't for everyone. I was young and single then and didn't have a need for a back seat. I enjoyed "spirited driving" and the Torana suited that perfectly. My brother had an original E-49 Charger at the time and we had some amazing races along the Great Ocean Road between the Torana, the GTHO and the Charger (along with a few other mates in various other vehicles) that would have seen us dragged from the cars and summarily executed on the side of the road if we were caught doing it these days. The GTHO was fantastic for it's "total balls" power and was a great highway cruiser, but as a driver's car it was pretty average. Both the Torana and the Charger shat all over it from a great height as far as "driving fun" was concerned, and the Torana had the edge over the Charger for mine as simply being the more enjoyable car. However, none of them came within a bull's roar of a Mini Cooper S for sheer driving pleasure. Even though all of them were significantly quicker. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 4 Sep 2009 20:08 "^Tems^" <stevebrooks13(a)live.com> wrote in message news:7gcp41F2mgm33U1(a)mid.individual.net... > He does have compulsive liar issues to go with his MPD I can vouch for that :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Jason James on 4 Sep 2009 20:15 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:02b19488$0$10793$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > John_H wrote: > >> >> At the time of its introduction (1949 IIRC) the cammy Jag was the most >> advanced car engine design on the planet IMHO. My choice for the >> ultimate post war British classic saloon would've been the MkII 3.8S. >> > > Agreed, they were a great looking car and performed very well in their > day, I wouldn't mind owning one as a weekend toy. > >> The only thing of any consequence that remained of Jaguar under BLMC >> was the styling (and the XJ6 is still hard to beat). >> > > They were/are a great looking car, too bad about the shocking build > quality otherwise I probably would have bought one, I came close to buying > a Daimler version with a crook engine but was put off by the high cost of > parts to rebuild it. One could buy a 3.8 Jag for $1000 in the 2nd-hand car yards along Parramatta rd back in early '70s. I remember one in particular which had red paint as OEM. Jason
From: Noddy on 4 Sep 2009 20:32
"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:02b19721$0$8693$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > http://www.harrisonmotoringgroup.com.au/assets/197/DesignAssets/Torque_Disp_park_lake_crop.jpg > "186ci fuel injected turbo charged 6 cylinder Holden engine, producing > 540bhp" Wow :) I'll bet he works *hard* at keeping that together :) -- Regards, Noddy. |